While we were chatting comics a few posts back, we got on the subject of reboots, and specifically DC’s attempt to reboot Hawk and Dove. Which has failed.
Again. This will mark no less than the seventh time DC’s tried to reboot this series in twenty years.
We get it: editors and writers play favorites. And every now and then, somebody mines gold: Peter David turns Jamie Madrox into a funny and engaging character, or James Robinson turns “Starman” into one of the classic books of the ’90s. But it seems like that for every classic hero, there’s some second stringer who tries, and fails, to get rebooted every few years like clockwork.
So, who do you think should be put out to pasture, dumped in an alternate universe, or otherwise gotten rid of? We’ve got a few nominees.
The Punisher
This is every Punisher story ever written: there is a mobster. He annoys the Punisher. He avoids death for three to six issues. He dies. Rinse, repeat.
True, Garth Ennis has breathed new life into Frank: “Welcome Back, Frank”, and then his highly political Max books.
On the other hand, most recently they turned him into the Frankenpunisher. So maybe it’s time to give Frank some closure.
Doctor Fate
The JSA, as a rule, has a hard time in the current DCU: they’re either redundant thanks to the Silver Age, ridiculous thanks to the demands of the time, or goofy enough to need a serious reboot, but DC has even managed to make back-benchers like the Crimson Avenger at least vaguely interesting. All except Fate, since not even DC’s resident Golden Age revivalist James Robinson could ever do much with this one.
The main problem with Doctor Fate is that he has absolutely no hook whatsoever that isn’t done better somewhere else. Hawkman is constantly reincarnated. The Spectre is the tormented Left Hand of God. Zatanna has daddy issues. Fate is a smug dork in a funny helmet. The closest DC got to making him interesting was putting his helmet in the hands of a washed up drunk in a miniseries that had promise and ultimately went nowhere. It says a lot about Kent Nelson that he’s way more interesting when he’s dead.
At least it beat the time they rebooted him as a supposedly threatening mercenary in a ridiculous mullet.
Spawn
OK, so Spawn hasn’t been constantly rebooted, unless you count the endless attempts to shoehorn him into every conceivable era of human history for the purposes of selling action figures. Which we do, since McFarlane Toys apparently will stop that only when the sun goes out. But he has been beaten into the ground so badly that 200th issue couldn’t even muster some ’90s nostalgia and got terrible reviews. Maybe it’s time to let Al rest?
Venom
Here’s how you know a concept is well past its prime in the Spider-books: Flash Thompson gets dragged into the mess.
We could do an entirely separate bit just on Flash: Spider-Man writers have wasted page after page trying to make this jock interesting. The thing is, they’ve largely succeeded, or at least haven’t failed so badly they drag down the character. Not so much with Venom, although considering he’s a Lovecraftian horror, it’s hard to shoehorn in any character development.
That said, the fact that the current Venom needs a gun, a “Multi-Gun” no less, kind of makes us wonder if Marvel had dug out a pitch from, say, 1995. Maybe it’s time for the symbiote to go back to space.
Captain Marvel
What do you say about a character that last had his heyday sixty years ago?
You’ve got Superman. Everybody knows Superman. Everybody loves, well, enjoys Superman. But nobody cares about Captain Marvel anymore, unless Jeff Smith is involved, and he’s got other things to do. Every attempt to tie him into the larger DCU has been met with yawns, and with reason: he’s just too, well, simple in a universe where even your most boring invincible hero, Superman, at least got some character development.
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Ummm… maybe we can wait until after Greg Rucka is done with Punisher before we retire him.
Ehhhhhh, it has not been lighting my fire if I’m being honest. Not that Rucka isn’t trying, but it’s the Punisher.
Honestly I get most Garth Ennis stories mixed up too. Hyper violence, disturbing sexual deviancy, heroes who really aren’t heroes. We get it, we got it back when it was The Preacher and it’s starting to sound like a broken record.
He’s got one shtick, although every now and again he’s got a surprise in him.
The Punisher was so good when Ennis was doing the Max books, I knew they were pretty much done when he left. You can’t top something like that. I’ve tried to pick up some of the books since, but have always just been disappointed. Even some of the books I loved years before Ennis helmed it have paled since. I think it would have been great if Ennis had just retired him in some blaze of glory in his last book. That would have been something.
Garth Ennis’ Punisher run was EPIC. “Preaher” and “Punisher” are the reason I buy ANYTHING Ennis writes.
Honestly, Rick Remender’s Punisher run was pretty good up until the abomination that was “Frankencastle.” Good enough that I’m going to assume that the supernatural aspect was an editorial decision forced upon an unwilling writer.
Yeah, Marvel has done some weird, weird stuff to the Punisher over the years. Remember when a crack whore former surgeon turned him into a black guy?
Bruce Wayne.
I SAID IT.
Isn’t the reason they didn’t really go anywhere with Drunktor Fate due to Steve Gerber dying?
Also, Captain Marvel’s problem is that DC keeps trying to make him into something he’s not.
Cap is a kid who turns into a superhero. He’s the ultimate inner child wish-fulfillment character, and should be handled as such. Jeff Smith gets this, Grant Morrison (when he wrote him in JLA) gets this. But, every time DC tries to do something new with him it’s geared towards making him more adult.
I think that’s why they didn’t move forward with him.
Someone made a good Captain Marvel comic recently. It was called Superior.
Either Fek is off today, his power is out or he’s currently driving to wherever Seitz lives to murder him in his sleep.
Nah, Fek would nevOH GOD HE’S HERE! HE HAS A FLAMING AXE! WHO HAS A FLAMING AXE?!
Firestorm. Has anyone done anything interesting with Firestorm in the last, oh, ever?
Barry Allen. He was brought back why exactly? Everyone’s adjusted memories of the Silver Age Flash are filtered through retroed continuity. He was more interesting dead and Wally was a more interesting Flash.
Anything mutant with claws not named Wolverine, and I’d be fine with Wolverine to boot.
Firestorm had a decent run in the ’80s, so I can understand that, and the recent Firestorm book has been solid, if nothing that makes me personally want to hunt it out.