
“I still believe in heroes.” — Nick motherf–king Fury
Marvel has released an extended version of the Avengers trailer which played during the Super Bowl yesterday. That trailer and another .gif are below, but first, let’s nerd out about the mystery aliens in Loki’s Army. (Spoilers to follow.) BleedingCool put together a great post on who the aliens in Loki’s army seem to be, and it doesn’t appear to be the Skrull or the Kree after all. Here are some screencaps of the aliens falling from the sky, possibly emerging from the top of a building:

BleedingCool also posted some panels from Thor of the Surtur Saga storyline during Walt Simonson’s run, in which the Avengers and the Fantastic Four defend New York City from the sons of Muspell, creatures from Muspellheim, who emerge from a portal atop the Empire State Building and bear some resemblance to the aliens in the movie. Also, in the trailer, a similar-looking portal possibly opens atop the Chrysler building. In both Simonson’s comic and Norse mythology, the sons of Muspell are associated with the breaking of the Bifröst bridge, an event which we already saw happen in Thor, when Thor himself smashes the bridge with Mjilnor. In Norse mythology, it is the sons of Muspell who break the Bifröst bridge, which is a signal of the end times. Geez, way to go, Thor.
Also, this:

“F–king look at Thor, just like, “No, I don’t need a shield. My elbow will repel the blast.’ And it f–king does.” — Annee Maye
Here’s that trailer:
[Sources: BleedingCool, LaughingSquid, FYeahAvengers]




After how bad Iron Man 2, Thor, and Captain America were, I do not expect this movie to be any good. I have douche chills…
I disagree completely on those three being bad. I loved all three of them, though admittedly I thought Thor was the weakest of them, but still far above average.
I gotta say though, the line “I have an army.” “We have a Hulk.” was just absolute genius.
Just out of curiosity, why did you think they were bad? I thought they were mildly entertaining, not setting new standards for greatness but I don’t think they sucked. Perfectly serviceable and fun movies. I am really stoked for this personally, it looks like a lot of fun. And Whedon’s already proved (to me at least) that he knows how to direct an ensemble film that works as its own movie and as a continuation of something with a lot of preexisting material (Serenity.)
I’m not trying to be snarky, I’m genuinely asking.
Anybody who thought Captain America sucked was watching Captain America wrong.
And not an American. *Rips off shirt to expose his chest tattoo of a Bald Eagle crushing the planet in his patriotic talons*
erm… Where does the Hulk come from exactly? As they pan round the group, the Hulk just “appears”…
I don’t think they sucked, I just feel like they were all rushed. Iron Man 2 just does not compare to the first, which I loved. There is no suspense in 2. Whiplash was a great villain, but was pushed aside to pack in all of these other subplots that only serves to build to the Avengers. There was just so much more that could’ve been done with Tony Stark revealing himself to be Iron Man, with Whiplash, or with Tony’s body rejecting the reactor. Any of these subplots could’ve been the main storyline, but there is not enough time allowed to develop any of them.
Thor…I wanted to like Thor. This one, like Iron Man 2, had a little too much going on that takes away from the main storyline of Thor/Loki. The romance between Thor and Jane was weak as well, which makes his sacrifice feel weak. The family dynamic of Thor makes it completely unique to the Marvel universe. It would’ve have played much better if that was the movies primary focus, which would make sense to have a Shakespearean director in Kenneth Branagh at the helm. The family stuff felt very Shakespearean.
Captain America, I loved, loved the first half of this movie. For me, the movie felt over after Cap sprung the Howling Commandos and had his first encounter with Red Skull. I thought the first half of the movie was flawless, Steve felt real, the romance with Peggy was pitch-perfect, Steve not wanting to be a puppet for the army, all were great, but then it’s a 60 minute rush to get to the Avengers. The showdown with Red Skull just had nothing to it. I was most let down by this movie because the first half was so good. If they were going to rush to this ending, then the next great part to explore is Steve adjusting to life in modern times. Even the crappy 1990 Cap movie covered this better.
I walked out of the theater after each film just being disappointed. Each movie lacks focus, and this is with only one main hero character, now they are trying to pack all three, plus Hulk, Nick Fury, Black Widow, and Hawkeye in one movie. I just don’t see it working.
I agree Serenity works well as an ensemble, but that has a lot to do with the fact that not every character is a main character. For Avengers to work, some of the heroes are going to have to be marginalized to a subplot as secondary characters (Cap, Nick Fury, possibly Hulk), or even made tertiary characters (Hawkeye and Black Widow?), because from what we’ve seen, I think Thor and Iron Man are the main characters. There isn’t enough room in a two hour to two and half hour movie to have every hero be a main character.
Those are all excellent points, and I appreciate the thought out answer. I think the main division with all this is what Marvel’s trying to make. All of the various criticisms and potential storylines (or rather more focused storylines) that you make, like I said, are good. Those would certainly be more engaging films, but I think what Marvel is going for is light-summer movies for the masses and more importantly, the kiddies. Nothing deep or too serious, just spectacle with an average storyline. Neither one is the “wrong” way to go about it, just different if slightly less… significant; I suppose is the word I’m looking for.
As far as Avengers being an ensemble film goes, I wouldn’t necessarily mind certain characters getting more face time than others, or certain characters being more or less supporting players. I can dampen your fear(?) that Iron Man and Thor are the main guys. Joss Whedon has said in an interview somewhere that Captain America will be the central figure. Which makes sense to use him as the “eyes” of the audience. As he’s being introduced to this “new world.” I think Iron Man is the most popular (or looks that way to the masses) which is why so many of the trailers have focused on him or him being a smartass.
Ultimately I think the roles in the film will break down like this:
Cap: Main protagonist, eyes of the audience
Fury/Iron Man: The “heads” of organizing the Avengers (while Cap is leader, or getting there by the end of the film.) There’s also going to be some butting of heads between Cap and Tony.
Thor: Will show up on Earth probably in the first 20-30 mins and basically give out the background on Loki and who they might be facing. Also be the strong guy.
Hulk: I think they’re gonna bring in Bruce to study the cosmic cube and that will be his purpose. Also: Hulk smash.
Hawkeye: I think he’ll more or less be the smartass in the corner, not doing much other than being in the big battles. (Which I don’t mind really.)
Black Widow: The typical action girl. Knowing Whedon she’ll probably get more than a few sassy badass sequences.
And like I said, thanks for answering and making those excellent points.
That’s a better looking trailer than the last ones. My one comic fanboy complaint is still that Captain America isn’t the team leader, but I digress, I’m hopeful.
As long as I’ve waited for a Barsoom movie, I’ve waited longer for an Avengers movie. The 8 year old in me fainted seeing this trailer. I’m not a sycophantic Whedonite, but I do trust the man to give us a clever and entertaining story. It’s all I ask.
@MrFroggie
I absolutely see your point about what Marvel is going for and perhaps I am demanding more from what boils down to a comic book movie.
I just feel like there is way more potential in the material then what Marvel is allowing. I guess the spectacle just isn’t enough for me.
My only problem is that Thor never wears his freaking hat.
Can someone explain to me how Hawkeye, and whatever Scarjo’s character’s name is, could be any kind of helpful in fighting gods and giant flying machines?
Like, in that top gif, is she holding a magical 9mm, or just a regular ol’ 9mm? Are Hawkeye’s arrows magical, or do they have rpgs on them?