#2) Two Words: Gwen Stacy
For comics fans especially… we all know what’s coming. Stacy was basically crammed into the third movie, so the vast sea of people who have just seen the movies have no idea what we know is happening, but it sets a bit of a melancholy tone for “Amazing” simply because the clock is ticking.
Adding Captain Stacy, whose death wasn’t really any better, to the mix just makes it worse.
#1) This is a Different Spider-Man
Spidey in the Raimi movies had one big flaw: he lacked a smart mouth. Part of what defines Spidey is the fact that he spends about half his time in fights insulting his opponents. Tobey Maguire did a good job in the movies, but he also was never asked, and never had a chance, to create a sense of Peter being a smart-ass kid. “Amazing” seems to be going out of its way to do just that.
It also left out a fairly important part of the origin, which is that before Uncle Ben dies, Peter’s on his way to being as big a bully and a douchebag as anybody who ever called him “Puny Parker”. “Amazing”, just from the trailers, seems to have left that part in.
Yeah, it seems a bit weird to see a franchise we saw in our lifetimes get rebooted, but the reboot looks like a completely different movie, and it deserves a clean slate and a fair shot. We’ll know for sure how much tomorrow.
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Let’s not forget that Toby Maguire looks/ed like a complete fucking idiot.
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“Amazing” looks and feels like the moving I was expecting 10 years ago. True, Rami’s got butchered due to re-edits as a result of 9-11, and true, #2 was a great movie, but the universe he created felt awkward and campy.
And then, there was emo-hair.
I feel like the only one who is legitimately excited for this movie and not even thinking about the abortion that was Spiderman.
Raimi was trying to stick close to the original Spidey comics which…well, it’s a controversial choice.
“It also left out a fairly important part of the origin, which is that before Uncle Ben dies, Peter’s on his way to being as big a bully and a douchebag as anybody who ever called him “Puny Parker”. “Amazing”, just from the trailers, seems to have left that part in.”
That always bugged me about the first movie. The ham handed way they tried to address that. Peter Parker is about to get his head crushed against metal lockers by a guy twice his size and he just dodges and weaves and throws one punch that doesn’t even leave any apparent damage to the other guy and everyone acts like he was flashing a gun around school.
To be fair if the class nerd had suddenly pulled some sort of contortionist/parkour stunt and OHK’ed the football captain, I’m pretty sure “total shock” would be my reaction.
Early reports indicate he beats the living crap out of his bullies and thoroughly enjoys it.
Ya, but it wasn’t just the kids watching it happen. Uncle Ben chastises him for a fairly light way of defending himself.
Like he did something wrong.
Had they shown him going out of his way for payback or over doing the self defense, then we have an issue.
Well, arguably, beating the crap out of somebody is ALWAYS wrong, but I see your point.
So conflicted about weather this will suck or not.
On the bright side, at least we’ll get more Emma Stone gifs…
I saw it yesterday and to be honest I thought it was “Eh, okay.” The first two movies were definitely better. By two biggest gripes were these:
1) It was pretty clear that they were trying to emulate a reboot similar to “Batman Begins” which I think caused really the whole point of Spider-man’s origin to be lost. By going with a “Secret Origins” angle I felt this movie glossed over the “With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility.” lesson and downplayed how important Uncle Ben was to Peter as a father figure.
2) While we finally do get a smart-ass Spider-man, we also as a result lose the high school nerd Peter Parker. Even when he was being bullied by Flash you never really felt like Peter was as much of an outcast as he was in the comics or the first movies. In fact, instead of getting a Emo Parker I think you get something that at times is debatably worse: Hipster Parker.
Emma Stone was great though (and would have made a good Mary Jane too).
Unfortunately, the line between hipster and nerd, visually speaking, is thin, blurry, and getting worse all the time. I once literally berated some hipster asshole for five minutes when he said “Serenity is totally more the Motion Picture than the Wrath of Khan”.
Hipster Parker? ::shudder::
I saw it last night and I thought it was excellent. Leaps and bounds better than the Rami 3 – by far. I’d take a hipster parker over emo parker any day.
The origins story was intriguing and drove the plot. They took time to develop each aspect of Peters character. Of course there are going to be the ones who knit-pick the details, but this was a reboot that was much more character driven than a spectacle and I think it was fantastic. Everything I wished the originals were.
I cant wait for the Super-cut/Remastered/Digitally-enhanced version of this movie to come out….where they CG the Lizard black and slap a white spider on his chest……just by looking at the trailer it would make a better venom film then part 3…….Rami is the man BTW, drag me to hell was highly underrated.
You left out the #1 best reason to reboot the franchise: Spider-Man 3 was so unbelievably bad it retroactively erased how good the first 2 movies were. I think most everyone is fairly willing to just pretend that none of the Raimi movies ever existed.
Also, Sam Raimi should never be allowed to direct anything that isnt a cheesy horror movie or an episode of Xena: Warrior Princess.
Christ I’m glad someone else said it. Everyone seems to think SM3 can just be excused as a bad 3rd part, because other 3rd parts have been bad I guess and it’s become the “norm” to excuse them and we should move on and let Raimi (who allowed the studio to force themselves on him resulting in that movie) to just keep churning them out. I don’t want that, most of us don’t want that. I’m surprised there are as many Raimi lovers as there are, I don’t understand why. I compare his Spider-Man run to the likes of how most people feel about Tim Burton’s Batman; it was good for the time because we didn’t know any better. Batman ’89 was a drastic change from what everyone knew before that, the 60′s campy TV show, and Raimi was the first one to ever bring Spidey to the big screen (and I’m not counting those terrible 70′s episodes, no one remembers those) so we all just accepted it. Were they watchable? Yes. But they can be done so much better and we should demand better. And like it was said, I want to forget the prior trilogy in exchange for seeing how this one hopefully turns out and it’s got a great head-start.
And that also goes to say, the bar for comic movies has been raised very high, compared to a time (before and up to 2005ish) when we settled because we were seeing our heroes onscreen for the first time, something many of us thought would never happen. Now with Batman, Iron Man, Avengers, Watchmen etc being responsible for that bar, it makes those old movies seem like farts in the wind. While I understand for the time we didn’t know better and let our awe get the best of us, I will never go back to those movies and feel they did the characters any justice. I think we’ve just gotten smarter and realize that comic book movies can have great character development while retaining that “blockbuster” feel. It’s a great time mostly for comic-book adaptations. I think technology is a huge factor, otherwise I don’t see any reason we couldn’t have had this “movement” in the 90′s.
I loved the new movie. But i do want to note, they TRIED to get smart mouth spidey into the first movies. They had brian michael bendis (the man behind hte ultimate spiderman series) write a bunch of dialogue, and the producers wouldnt let them use any of it.
Example? Spikey making fun of goblin’s suit, producers got mad because of how much they spent on it. They seemed to not get the point that spiidey makes fun of EVERYTHING.
Hands down though, the new guy playing parker is way better than maguire.