We covered the first video in this series with The Amazing Spider-Man, and previously pointed out that the gag was already teetering on the brink of being unfunny.
Aaaaaaaand here it comes, rocketing right over the edge of being funny and crashing smack into nerd rage territory. Or we would be… if he’d bothered to pay attention to the movie.
Here’s the video:
Here’s the problem: If you want to point out a movie’s flaws, you’d better be damn sure they’re flaws everyone agrees on and that the movie doesn’t address.
And there are points where this video is right: The Avengers does expect you to at the very least have seen Thor and Captain America to get what’s going on, or to fill in little bits of information. It’s not absolutely necessary: you don’t really need to know the Cosmic Cube comes from Asgard to understand that it’s something the guy with the horn helmet probably shouldn’t have. But it is a flaw.
Similarly, it’s reasonable to point out Joss Whedon isn’t shy about using cliches. He uses them well, but they are cliches.
On the other hand, a lot of what he’s complaining about, the script actually bothers to explain. Take his two complaints about the Iron Man/Loki confrontation. It’s made abundantly clear Loki didn’t want to kill Tony Stark, but rather recruit him. And why THAT chokes is literally in the video’s soundtrack even as the narrator is whining about it.
Similarly, the movie bears down, incredibly hard, on the point that Banner has his emotional feces together so that he’s not going to lose it except under very extreme conditions. There’s literally an entire sequence, in the movie, dedicated to just this.
That’s not even getting into the fact that the script has a massive, gaping, enormous plot hole that this video completely misses: The fact that Tony Stark doesn’t put together that, oh yeah, maybe that enormous power source he just fired up might be relevant to the artifact that needs a ridiculous amount of power.
The Avengers, as a movie, is hardly bulletproof, but come on: If you’re going to nitpick, do it right.
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the spider man one was terrible, too. i think a couple of them are “look, we don’t take ourselves too seriously!” points, but they’re obscured by the fact that they took the time to edit and post a video of them taking themselves too seriously.
The Spider-Man one I will cut them some slack on. Honestly, though, “Scene does not include lap dance” left a pretty bad taste in my mouth, for some reason.
I disliked Spiderman and still hated their video for it. LIke I said previously and what was commented above, what’s annoying is that all movies have issues, so actually touch on those and do it in a funny way. The fast pace format of these don’t allow for any of the humor that could be there to breathe.
I think the lapdance was just a joke. I think the whedonism are just the problem with the movie,he cliche and and winks at the camera to much, but some people like that. but hey some people didnt like the dark knight either but i enjoyed it. I do wonder why everyone makes things from space look like transformers. my biggest beef with the avengers is its a fourth act movie. a bunch of other people did the work just to get the avengers to be the avengers, but the characters besides stark, became a pissing contest with one another. get them alone and they fell back into how they were in the other films like thor and loki alone scene it went back to being shakespearian the boom here comes iron man to snark it up.
but thats my beef with the film. the avengers is only successful because of other people work.
True, it’s really more of a very expensive TV episode than a movie (in more ways than one), and that is a problem.
On the other hand, I was having too much fun to complain that hard about it.
When I saw this in the Theater I was kinda like, “why is he talking to the Germans in English? I know they’re a posh crowd but it can be distracting to a public speaker when half of the audience is whispering translations to the other half.”
Germany has put a lot of effort towards excising all things Nazi-oriented, but in a crowd of about one hundred Germans (and posh ones at that) there has to be at least one Nazi descendant who profited from that whole enterprise who might have thought Captain America was there for his ass.
You know, a guy running around in a flag suit and refusing to speak the local language probably exactly reflects how most Europeans view American tourists…
I was never bugged by Loki speaking to the Germans in English. If some uber-powerful dude was yelling at me and not allowing me to leave, I wouldn’t have to know what he was saying to be terrified. And everything dramatic Loki does is really to appease himself anyway.
I liked it better the first time, when Honest Trailers did it (right).
I think it was not really meant to be taken seriously, because either the guy who made this video is dumb (There were a bunch of stuff he said wasn’t explained but was) or a troll. Like the whole loki wanted to be getting caught was because he wanted Hulk to Hulk out on board. Widow even gets him to admit it. And they explained that the carrier needed that engine/turbine, and an arrow packed with c4 would do the trick (Also I think they had to kinda justify Hawkeye’s existence as a viable “super”)
Also, the list of military weapons taken down by goofy stuff is almost too long to name. The Navy once had a submarine disabled by a paint scraper, and one guy dropping a wrench triggered a Minuteman missile explosion, for example.
The real plot hole there was Widow gets him to admit something that he already pretty much admitted to Fury like three times, and she gives up a bunch of really personal shit just to do it. AND THEY STILL DON’T STOP HIM FROM CARRYING OUT HIS PLAN!
And one arrow can’t carry a whole lot of C4, and Hawk’s entire purpose is pretty much negated by Iron Man’s radar.
…… Hey, i luved the movie. We’re in a society now that allows us to tear things apart to the smallest detail. Why? Because some people feel it nessecary to i suppose?!
- Nature, when she invented, manufactured, and patented her authors, contrived to make critics out of the chips that were left.
Oliver Wendell Holmes
Man, you called it Dan. You were right on the money with these vids.
I get it’s just a bunch of jokes but Red Letter Media has spoiled me. They do nitpicking, self-mockery about said nitpicking, and they’re actually funny about it and always make a point that to mention when said nitpicks don’t interfere with their enjoyment of the movie.
Although I have to hand to these guys, they figured out that every geek/movie site would post their videos if they were about popular geek movies. That’s a ton of hits for lazy, lazy work.
Also, I appreciate that instead of starting by being amusing – like Honest Trailers or How It Should Have Ended – and getting progressively less amusing as they wore on, they chose to suck right out of the gate.
Well, cutting and properly recording is a LOT of work. So I wouldn’t say they’re lazy. Just… trolling, I guess.
ps red letter media= boring
I don’t see the problem with the videos. Half of them are honest observations about plot holes, some of them are just jokes for the sake of comedy, and a small percentage are wrong. The only ones I could find in this one is the Loki-Iron Man exchange and Loki’s objective of being caught. Really the only thing about this is it’s a video version of [www.the-editing-room.com], which is probably funnier, but the internet loves its videos over reading.
A lot less than half, actually. I went through and counted because I’m a nerd. Most of them actually fall under either the “complaining about cliches” thing or “personal observations”. Most of his “plot holes” fell under “Yes, the script explained this”.
I chalked up the cliches to the jokes one. It’s not a plot hole, but it could be argued as something “wrong with” the movie. Either way, I still didn’t find much wrong about the video. The cliches were annoying, there were some ridiculously stupid parts, and there were some pretty big plot holes in an otherwise fun movie. I got no problem with this guy pointing out what he felt was wrong with the movie. Hell I still get in arguments with people about that fucking “no look arrow shot on the craft moving at a ridiculously fast speed”
I’m glad he touched on the complete lack of civilian injuries/fatalities during the invasion. The third Transformers movie at least did that part right.
Just because you didn’t see/they didn’t show civilians dying doesn’t mean there weren’t any deaths. [Sorry, I'm a big apologist when it comes to defending minor issues in movies (even the ones I hate)]
I know right? I mean, to me it looked like the aliens were coming just to hang out and crush some brews and not destroy the fucking world.
That guy was one cool-ass boss.
Everything wrong with “Everything wrong with the Avengers in 3 Minutes or Less” in one second. It’s a super hero movie, dickholes.
These are good videos. Not the greatest and could use some work. Know what I hate? Dan Seitz thinking he’s the one who determines what is a “sin”, when a video should be taken too seriously and whether things are funny. Grow up nerd boy. You’re that asshole in the comic shop or D&D groups that everyone hates. Step away from your nerd movie and realize it’s not perfect, like your critiques and like these videos.
No, you’ve gotten it wrong. I’m the Comic Book Guy criticizing a dilettante comic-book guy.
Joking aside, if you are going to shit on a movie, you need to be absolutely fair to the filmmakers and what they were trying to do, and you have to get your facts right. Otherwise, you’re just being an ass.
Grow Up! He’s not making fun OF the movie, he’s having fun WITH the movie. Everyone does it, especially if your a fan. There meant to be taken lightheartedly, like the movie.
If you don’t like them because you don’t think they’re funny then you’re entitled to that opinion, but if you don’t like them because you take what, if you think about it, is kind of a ridiculous story* way too seriously, then get over it.
*p.s. I still love the movie and the comics