9. Niles and Daphne, ‘Frasier’
J: The only other one I could think of was from Frasier, when Niles FINALLY proposes to Daphne, even though she’s sick with the flu. Why that one? Because Frasier’s better than Friends, and I feel like our “TV blogger” badges would be revoked by The Internet if we didn’t include an engagement/proposal from at least one of them.
M: I don’t even remember the Monica/Chandler proposal. I guess Monica ends up proposing to Chandler because he didn’t want her to catch on that he was going to ask her?
J: That sounds right?
J: Could she BE any more commanding?
M: I was a relentless Simpsons-watching machine in the ’90s. I didn’t even see most Seinfeld episodes until syndication in the early ’00s, so I’m spotty on Frasier and Friends except for whenever I stumbled onto them and watched an ep.
J: Neither has held up well, but Friends has held up less well.
M: I can say this about Niles and Daphne, though: in the real world, she f**ks an alpha male within 3 years of marrying Niles. If not sooner. On the honeymoon, maybe.
J: Without a question. She’d go for an Archer-type before they’ve even checked in to the hotel. They even have the same hair color.
Archer: So excuse me for needing some time to grieve.
Rip: By tending bar and banging newlyweds?
Archer: Apparently that’s my grieving process.
J: Is Jane Leeves attractive? Or is she 1990s attractive, like Neve Campbell? Probably a conversation for another time. We could be here for a while.
M: I’d argue that the British accent is what takes her beyond ’90s attractive into actual attractive.
J: Good point. And she hung around with Eddie, and that dog was awesome.
M: That dog and John Mahoney carried the series.
J: Just looked at Eddie’s Wikipedia—both dogs who played him are dead.
J: At least we’ll always have this:
M: Okay, a final talking point for Warming Glow’s sudden insurgence of female readers:
10. What is the best Sex and the City proposal?
J: Without a question, it’s when the Bald Jew Who Gets Naked a Lot on Californication asks Charlotte for her hand in marriage. Maybe it’s because I, too, am Jewish, but that one really gets me in the ol’ hartz. (I wish the word for “heart” in Yiddish was funnier.)
M: My fiancee claims it’s Charlotte’s first engagement, because she learns how Kyle MacLachlan’s mother controls him, and then uses that trick on him, but then she gets upset she didn’t get a proper proposal so she makes something up because WOMEN ARE CRAZY LOLZ
J: Jenny doesn’t get Sex and the City in the same way us men do.
M: In last place: anything having to do with Carrie, because she was a total c*nt to Aidan.
J: She’s a total c*nt, period.