
There’s a fascinating piece up on The Atlantic this week about the evolution of television dramas, specifically how the shows themselves have gotten better but for one glaring problem: The main characters never grow. That’s obvious in a show like “The Walking Dead” (Rick Grimes) or “24′ (Jack Bauer), but it is less apparent but no less true in shows like “Mad Men” (Don Draper) and even “Justified” (Raylan Givens). The reason why shows like “Justified” and “Mad Men” are so much better, however, is that the static protagonists surround themselves with dynamic characters, so even if the protagonists face the same dangers and make the same choices week after week, it feels less apparent because characters like Boyd Crowder offset the problems.
There were two paragraphs that best illustrated the dynamic, specifically how one great show (“Breaking Bad”) has managed to grow its main character and another (“Justified”) hasn’t yet (although, it doesn’t take anything away from how brilliant “Justified” is):
It’s easy to rail against the worst offenders (hey there, six seasons of “Dexter”), but take a series as strong as FX’s “Justified,” which—in the middle of what may very well turn out to be its best season—has also reached the point at which its main character is also one of its least interesting. The pilot of “Justified” opened with Raylan offering a fugitive one last off-the-record chance to escape, and though that went poorly, I wouldn’t bat an eye if Raylan made the same offer to a new fugitive next week. For two and a half seasons, Raylan has been too strong and too clever to be beaten, and if even if that wasn’t true, “Justified’s” premise requires him to stay alive anyway.This is no fault of star Timothy Olyphant, who continues to bring nuance, humor, and gravitas to his portrayal of the series’ prickly deputy marshal. It’s not even the fault of Justified’s creative team, which impressively manages each week to invent reasons why a U.S. marshal would be intimately connected with the goings-on of a small Kentucky county. The problem isn’t “Justified”; it’s television, which can’t afford to change its primary status quo until a series’ end is in sight.
There are, of course, other ways to build suspense. As “Breaking Bad” enters its fifth and final season, Walter White is not likely to be written out of the show. The series has maintained dramatic tension not by killing the character, but by changing him; as Walter descends ever-deeper into corruption, we’re drawn right along with him. The Sopranos performed a similar trick by having Tony Soprano flirt with goodness before ultimately proving himself irredeemably evil. But even these innovative series can’t fully escape the episodic TV structure; events from the first act pay off in the third, Chekov’s gun is always fired and major events, with clockwork precision, at the climaxes of each season. Life doesn’t have dramatic arcs, but television does.
I don’t disagree with the assessment that Raylan hasn’t changed (at least not much), but I don’t think he’s the “least interesting character” on the show. On the other hand, it’s difficult to argue that any character on “Justified” would fall under the category of “least interesting” (Winona, maybe). However, I will agree that Walter White is a slightly better character, but that’s in part because “Breaking Bad” is not as open-ended. There’s been a plan all along to take the show a certain limited number of seasons. You can do more with a character if you have story you want to tell and an end point in mind.
But I’ll put the question to the rest of you, knowing that it’s like choosing which of your children is your favorite. Who’s a better character and why? Raylan or Walt? Try not to let this GIF (compliments of WarmingGlow reader Clay) persuade you one way or another.

(Source: The Atlantic)



I don’t watch Breaking Bad (/ducks), so I can’t have an opinion on who is better. However, as a fan of his character from the books and the show, I for one don’t want Raylan to change.
Also, I’m guessing most of the ladies here are going to go with Raylan as the better character.
I’m in UU’s court; BB is on my “to watch” list, but hasn’t gotten there yet.
As a complete aside, that was a fantastic article, and I’m glad WG brought it to my attention.
Can I vote for both?
Write-in candidate: Zack Morris
Raylan Givens kinda is a modern-day southern Zack, in a way. Always the coolest dude in the room, clever line for any conversation, signature prop (cowboy hat vs. massive cell phone), his choice of any lady in the room, awesome skill that no one else has (timeout vs. mega-badass-shoot-people-in-the-face-really-fast-ness), and manages to get himself out of seemingly inescapable pickles. I guess that makes Boyd his Slater? And Arlo his Mr. Belding?
Dewey Crow for Screech or GTFO.
Karen Sisco is Stacy Carosi. Both were involved in shady dealings over oil on their home turf. And I’d bet dollars to donuts that Raylan has wept over a pet duck named Becky, has a bit of Native American in him, and will be featured in a future episode singing and playing guitar in an eponymous band with his friends.
It’s Walter without question. Raylan, as awesome as he is, is a boy scout. He’s like Rick Grimes with more personality and a better hat. The far better character is Walter White, someone who doesn’t care what lines he crosses as long as his family and (most recently) his pride and ego are intact.
Give me the villain anyday of the week.
Walter White. For all the reasons mentioned above, but specifically that Breaking Bad isn’t open-ended. Raylan is an urban cowboy myth.
Walter Whites story has been incredible. However, my main gripe with the article is when they say “Don Draper hasn’t changed.” Yes, he still drinks and sleeps around, but there has been a very slow burn in his personality changes. When the show is done, you will be able to look back on the first couple of episodes and see an entirely different person.
I love Raylan but I have to go with Walter White. Walter White started off as a broke, cancer-stricken Chemistry teacher just getting by and has evolved into this maniacal drug-lord who’s intentions now seem to be protecting himself before anyone else. Raylan hasn’t changed much from the 1st episode, and there’s nothing wrong with that at all because he’s still awesome. But the transformation of Walter White from the 1st episode of “Breaking Bad” to the finale of Season 4 was built and executed so well that it’s so hard to pick against him.
I’d even argue that in the most recent episode, Rick Grimes has seen some pretty drastic character development by shooting those two regular (albeit murderous) guys.
Walter White. I love the concept of man on edge of death with nothing to what lengths he done to feel alive, even if that means very evil things.
An annoying comparison. Walter White was, by design, created to incrementally devolve from sympathetic protagonist to villain. Raylan Givens is the hero of a neo-Western, and his subtle changes over three seasons aren’t SUPPOSED to be as drastic as White’s.
This is what’s so fucking annoying about TV criticism. Instead of celebrating what few great shows we get, there are hyperanalytical dipshits complaining about “B-” episodes of “Community.”
Its classic Dustin.
Not to pile on, but…
/piles on
Indeed. The entire point of Breaking Bad is to chart the change that occurs within Walter White; it’s why Vince Gilligan made the show. No character on television is going to be dynamic as one that exists specifically to change. More common – and compelling, and tragic – are characters who have a go at change and get mixed results (which, incidentally, strikes me as more realistic). McNulty, String, and Omar all qualify, as does Vic Mackie. You could make the argument that Jax Teller will end farther from where he began than String or Vic, but it doesn’t make him a better character.
Matt, I love you man but I want to be real with you for a second…imply that there’s such a thing as a “B-” episode of Community and we are DUNZO.
I agree with the “annoying comparison”. But what Dustin said was that the article pinpoint the idea that it’s not the show’s fault or its writers’, it’s a problem with television, and I don’t find that over-analytical, rather interesting. The fact that there are rules that forbid ideas or paths in developing characters or plot is very real when you write/watch the pilot, or the season of a tv show. And it sucks.
To be clear, I was talking about The Atlantic being hyperanalytical dipshits, not Dustin.
And thecursor, I put the B- in quotes to reflect certain websites’ insta-criticism. I’ve never not enjoyed an episode of Community.
*whew* Good. I was just about to end the imaginary friendship I created in my head between us over the three or four or so years I’ve been reading this blog. I mean…shit, I quit Filmdrunk for you man!
I thought this was the coolest scene I ever saw. Then the last two seasons happened.
Walter White. While Givens is a fascinating piece of fictional man, his motivations essentially boil down to “action hero, no motivation required”. White is a tragic figure who slowly fell down the path of being a bad, naughty man.
Really? That’s all you get from Raylan’s motivations? I see so much more, including (some admittedly cliched):
-Desperately wants to escape the life of a Kentucky coal miner and in his need to escape, does things that force him to go back home. In his buddy Boyd, sees the reflection of how life would have gone had he not become a lawman.
- Even more desperately, wants to avoid becoming his father redux.
- While not exactly a motivation, constantly feeling the need to show everyone how smart and tough and unbeatable he is, since all the people he grew up with and is now returning to do not think much of lawmen. The exchange between Raylan and Boyd (Raylan: “I am a deputy United States Marshal!” Boyd: You are a GIVENS!”) was a fantastic illustration of this point.
Obviously the only way to truly solve this is with a cross over. A massive cross over as yet another carpet bagging drug dealer comes to Kentucky, this time with blue meth. I believe a while back in a comment section, I proposed a Breaking Bad/SoA/Justified crossover…let’s revisit that.
And we all know, Raylan wins that.
Can we just agree they’re both awesome characters on awesome shows and have a GIF/JPG battle? Raylan, what do you think?
That is a work of art, LTF
Both are amazing characters on amazing shows, but if I had to choose right now, I’d have to go with Walter White.
“I am the one who knocks!”
LTF if you could gif/pic that moment I’d be quite grateful. I’m unfortunately not one of the “Fantastical Fifteen”.
/cries
My pleasure.
frightened by the Heisenberg, appreciative of the effort.
I don’t watch Breaking Bad so can’t offer an in depth opinion, but based on the descriptions/comments here, I’m not sure it’s a fair comparison given the original intent of the shows/characters. Raylan is, at the end of the day, meant to be a hero. I find that his reliability & loyalty actually make him more interesting, not less.
Also, Ava > Winona.
Sort of off topic: I’m finishing season 4 of SOA and trying to decide if any of the characters have evolved other than tara and opie. Jax has been annoying as shit to me and every time they do the pre-episode re-cap I think “Holy F***, I’m really just watching a soap opera for guys”.
Also, Walter.
Every time that show has been close to having Jax changing they circle him right back to how he was before. The only thing different about him from the 1st episode to now is it’s family first, club second.
Glad I’m not the only one. And yes when I read Hamlet I said “Holy F***, this is just a soap opera for 1600′s brits”
never liked Hamlet that much, did enjoy MacBeth though.
Justified has changed a bit throughout the series IMO (and yes, I will still refer to Raylan as Justified occasionally….it’s his a.k.a. as far as I’m concerned). In the beginning he was all about shooting the bad guys up and dealing with it after. Following the first season he had to cut down on the amount of guys he was shooting up and I enjoyed seeing him finding other ways to get the job done.
But to compare it to Walter White, a character who has evolved so much over the past 4 seasons, is just not fair. The whole point of Breaking Bad is to watch as this character changes. The whole show is based around the idea that you start with a normal dude and end up with a druglord/kingpin/meth cook.
I’d go with White but that’s not to take away anything from Raylan. I just think they are different shows with different purposes. Justified isn’t so much about Raylan’s story as it is about the law .vs. criminals in Kentucky. Raylan just happens to be a central character. Breaking Bad is all about Walter White’s transformation.
Least interesting character on Justified? At this point it’s Tim because he hasn’t done shit all season but I still find him to be a great character and want to see more of his shooting skills as well as maybe working with Raylan more. I would also nominate Rachel…..I don’t care too much about her stuff.
Wynn Duffy though? That dude is the shit.
Tim is awesome. Rachel is just meh. That’s not the her fault, just that they haven’t developed her character enough.
With Tim, we know he drinks whenever he’s off duty, like that time Raylan and Art needed to get into the bar and he turned up drunk. We know he is an awesome shot.
Rachel? She wore Raylan’s hat once, and that’s all I can remember about her.
itrain monkeys – It’s an interesting comparison that the Atlantic writer made but I’m inclined to agree strongly with what you wrote in your second and third paragraphs. While this is overly simplistic, “Breaking Bad” is a story about a high school science teacher’s gradual descent into a drug kingpin. “Justified” is a story about how a federal marshall reacts to crime while coping with returning home.
Both shows are more interesting than those one sentence descriptors. I don’t see why character growth is necessary to a compelling story (see Matt’s point, above, at 6:32). If you give me dialogue I enjoy, visuals that make me react strongly and a few surprises, I’m probably going to enjoy your show. Character development is a tool you can use to accomplish those goals but it’s not necessary.
I only watch Justified (so far)…..but I do think it is difficult for a “good guy” to evolve on a TV show……
That because you don’t watch Breaking Bad. Hank has evolved from bad to good, though I’m not sure as much as Walter.
can we have a discussion on how AWESOME “Happy Endings” was last night?
Damn, I thought that Chekhov guy from season 1 was dead. Someone held on to his gun?
Hodor.
Also, more on point, I don’t think Justified is particularly short on character development – I think Boyd has played with a few light and dark points along his path. But it seems to me that Justified isn’t written in a style that focuses on development; it focuses more on advancing the plot (with several characters who are already multidimensional), whereas a major focus of Breaking Bad is the development of the characters as the plot moves forward.
these are my two favorite shows on tv, i can’t choose who is better. they are just different.
even supporting characters are awesome and different: Art, Mike; Jesse, Boyd; etc.
I can see why people would get behind Walter White, and he’s an excellent character and perhaps the better one in many ways, but I actually want to be Raylan Givens when I grow up, so Raylan it is.
I love Justified. I really, really do. But c’mon! Walter White is one of the greatest TV characters of all time. Mr. Chips devolving into Scarface. Givens is a badass, but he’s pretty much the same badass he was this past episode that he was in the pilot.
I love both these shows but it’s a silly question to ask. The characters are different because they are set out to be different. It’s kind of like comparing Jerry Seinfeld in his show to Liz Lemon in hers.
However, I will go with Raylan. Why? Winona and Ava > Skyler White
Winona and Ava > Skyler White
Are you sure? I still think Skyler outweighs the two of them combined.
1800′s Raylan Givens banged 1800′s Skyler White though…so…there’s that.
You guys are blowing my mind. Unfortunately, I was also late to the Breaking Bad party and am waiting for the series to wrap before I watch it all.
That being said, Justified is my favorite show on TV right now, and nothing makes me smile more than hearing “Boyd?” “Hello Raylan”. Best on-screen duo on TV, IMO.
A question for this big-brained Atlantic writer: how much has HE changed over the last three years? How much does ANY person change?
Sure, it’s entertainment, and thus it’s an outsized and extraordinary version of reality, but how many similarly-minded critics complain about a show not being realistic? No matter what happens, the end result is “smart” people bitching about something great.
And FWIW, Raymond Chandler wrote seven of the best books I’ve ever read, and Philip Marlowe didn’t change a fucking lick.
Along those lines, character development doesn’t necessarily have to be something that happens within the timeline of the show. Raylan isn’t a one-dimensional character. He was created as a developed character; why should he need to develop further to make his character compelling?
I think the “overanalytical dipshit” raises some interesting issues about the evolution of television drama from episodic to serial, I just think he might have used the wrong example in “Justified” to demonstrate how protagonists have not evolved with the format. Dexter better illustrates his point — a static character who is forced to remain static lest the show end, but one that’s grown increasingly tedious because he never changes. But there are other strong serial dramas that don’t rely on static protagonist — Game of Thrones, for instance, or even Boardwalk Empire. Shows unafraid to allow their characters to evolve even if it means killing off those characters. Now, if Raylan and Winona are still off-again, on-again three seasons from now, “Justified” might serve as a better example.
Dustin – Is the problem with Dexter really that the main character hasn’t evolved? We’ve seen him change from a serial killer who believes that he is incapable of feelings into a person who appears to genuinely love his son. I’d say that’s a pretty major change. We’ve also watched him grapple with those emotions. The main problem that I had with the show is that the supporting characters (including the villains) and situations Dexter is in began to bore me. I don’t think character development just for the sake of character development would have changed my opinion.
With that said, what happened at the end of last season is a game changer. I’m interested to see where the writers go from there.
blackhawksfan — I’ll agree with that. He has evolved, albeit slowly, but you’re also right that the other characters have evolved even less. The game changer may give Dexter and his sister both an opportunity to evolve, but that development came about once they’d set an end date. We know now that there are two years left, and I think now they can find a focal point for the character and move toward that, rather than have him mostly tread water development wise. That may significantly improve the last two seasons. I think that reflects a showrunners need not to just map out each season, but map out the series and establish an end date. God knows what’s going to happen to a show like “Sons of Anarchy,” which has been renewed for two more seasons already with no established end date. If they want to keep the same characters, they’ll have no choice but to find a way to reset after each season. It’s going to get really frustrating if they continue to tease us about killing Tara and never actually follow through.
I wrote about this piece the other day. Television characters, particularly those used as examples in his article, are archetypes, and thus are inherently static. Also, as Matt pointed out, how many people in their mid 30s and 40s change over a three-year period? Not many. Evolution is incremental, and people largely are who they are at a certain point of their lives.
Watching characters like Don Draper, Raylan Givens, Tony Soprano, Stringer Bell, and Vic Mackey struggle to break out of the lives they’ve created for themselves — and often fail — contributes to their allure and grounds them in reality. That internal dichotomy is fascinating on all sorts of levels. The Walter Whites of the television world are a rarity precisely because wild pendulum swings like that are far and few between in the real world.
Chandler is the best.
Raylan IS changing, at least a little. This season he’s been grappling with the thought of giving up the Marshals Service — or at least getting “off the streets” — in order to raise a child with Winona. Before that, he seemed to be looking at Carla Gugino and seeing the drunken man-whore he used to be. She’s clearly giving him the fuck-me eyes. Then he looks across the room at Winona and chooses to go to her and share his emotional turmoil with him. That is evolution of a character. And let’s not forget, part of the reason Raylan is so reluctant to betray his self-imposed code of conduct is because he is TERRIFIED of the thought of turning into Arlo (or Boyd). So he carries around that air of impenetrability as his own defense mechanism. Subtext, people!
/end rant
//Dexter not evolving? He’s a fucking clinical psychopath and/or sociopath who serially murders. He’s not SUPPOSED to evolve. Except to become an ever-more adept killer.
*share his emotional turmoil with HER.* I forget what he said to her, but that was clearly a huge moment, Raylan going to Winona for comfort.
Chandler is the best.
So nice to see that written on a TV blog and *not* have it be about “Friends.”
When main characters are already alpha males of awesomeness, there is no place else to go. I thought Community dropped off a bit when they changed Jeff Winger from a narcissistic, asshole to an occasional narcissist who was mostly nice to people.
Walter White.
Reason: Breaking Bad is literally the only thing on TV where I verbally react to events on screen, and rewind to see good moments again, other than sports.
***SPOILER ALERT***
My favorite moment from season 4? – The day after Walter and Jesse have their fist fight, and Walt Jr. comes over to his Dad’s place to find a disheveled, weak, and beaten father.
When Walter looks his son in the eye, and tells Walt Jr. that he had spent the previous night gambling, a contrived excuse that Skylar created, I just froze.
I mean, holy shit. This dude is lying. Without compunction. TO HIS OWN SON. That’s fucked. Utterly inconceivable during season 1. And so evil. I loved it.
I think the wrong characters are being compared. While Raylan is obviously the main character of Justified and thus is rewarded a spot on this particular scale, Walter has much more in common with Boyd Crowder. Both of those characters are working their way to the top of their respective organized crime food chains and the actions they are taking to get there are the horrifying candy that makes their shows so sweet.
While I love Raylan, Boyd is a much more compelling character. Much like his portrayal of Seth Bullock in Deadwood, T. Olyphant loves to play an immovable object, someone so attached to their code that they become the rock upon which the ships of others character crash and break. But like Deadwood again this attitude makes hima set piece more than a
Boyd on the other hand is weighing all kind of philosophical and ethical questions and he ascends within his strata.
I actually wish that Justified featured Boyd as the protagonist as I think his journey is more interesting. Raylan’s moral quandries are relegated to small things like should I help my ex cover up her evidence theft? He rarely feels like he is making a decision about killing someone unless someone is standing right over his shoulder.
That being said it is hard to not hand the trophy to Walter in that the whole titular point of his show.
I love Raylan, but Walt gets my vote. I think part of it is that while Raylan is not your typical action hero cop, Walt is an even less typical anti-hero. The evolution of his street smarts, his mean streak, make him great.
Well?
I love Raylan, but in terms of character evolution, no one holds a candle to Mr. White.
The great Heisenberg… hands down. I mean, you gotta love Givens’ cool, sly style… but White is just Bad-Ass. Disposing bodies with HCL, Driving over people, poisoning a little boy?! I’ll be damned if he’s not Satan himself.
Hands down Walter White. I always root for the bad guy, and Walter is the ulitmate bad guy. From loving, doing what is best for his family to meth kingpin and attempted child murderer, Walt is simply the best.