NOTE: I’ll open a SPOILER thread at the bottom of this post’s comments section. Please contain all “upcoming on GoT” talk to there. If you mention something that hasn’t happened on the show yet outside of said thread, you’ll be banned. The only way to be unbanned: giving me all your dragons. No dragons, no dice.
The vibe that I've gotten from Twitter and other writers is that season finale "Valar Morghulis" wasn't good enough. After last week's brilliant, tightly constructed "Blackwater," "Valar" was all over the place, as it had to be, confusing those who haven't read the books ("how did Stannis escape so easily?") and not appeasing those who have ("the House of the Undying was butchered"). But I liked it. I liked it a lot, and I loved the season as a whole. Whenever I'm about to complain about something on "Game of Thrones" I remind myself: this is a Best Drama Series-worthy show about ice zombies, sorcery, dragons, political backstabbing, real backstabbing, demon babies, and direwolves, with an ample amount of boobs and violence. I'm going to miss "Game of Thrones."
Rather than a normal bullet point recap, with one exception, I put together a season-long GIF recap, including some from last night's episode. Enjoy, and until 2013: Attractive Women of "Game of Thrones" Season Two Power Ranking: #5. Cersei, #4. Ygritte, #3. Daenerys, #2. Talisa, and #1. Margaery.
Season two began with Joffrey flicking his tongue like a weasel-snake hybrid on his Cake Day and making the drunken fool Ser Dontos, who DEFINITELY isn't a symbolic representation of America, funnel a keg of wine.
And Cersei was like AW HELL NAH and slapped King Weasel-Snake, eliciting millions of "YAY" tweets.
Tyrion smirked at that.
At Dragonstone, Stannis's Red Priestess, Melisandre, not only used her sorcery to kill an old man, but also make a subtle reference to the upcoming hit movie, The Dark Knight Rises.
Theon returned home to the Iron Islands to finger his sister, much to Ghost's paw-stopping amusement.
This would have been a big deal, were it not for the fact that everyone has fingered everyone's sister on "Game of Thrones." Plus, Theon seems like the incestous kind.
Littlefinger wiped his semen from a woman's face because he's JUST THAT GENTLEMEN-LIKE. Later, in an off-screen scene, he wrote a song about the experience:
But I'm in you so deep, you know I've got such a tool for you.
You've got your mouth wrapped around my little littlefinger, ah, ha, ha.
Do you have to let it littlelinger?
Do you have to, do you have to, do you have to let it littlelinger?
He burned the draft shortly thereafter.
Stannis and Melisandre just knew that Littlefinger wrote the greatest sex song of all-time, though, and they had mmm...floor sex. I doubt there will be any dire consequences from their lovemaking.
JESUS CHRIST.
Someone, like Tyrion perhaps, should have snipped Stannis's manhood when they had the chance.
In less demon-y news, Arya felt WEIRD (, misspelled) THINGS when Gendry took his shirt off.
Theon was jealous of Arya.
And of Loras.
Bronn had wise words for Westeros.
Stannis, on his way to King's Landing, corrected Davos's grammar, while brother Renly cracked jokes.
Margaery wore an ice cream cone for a dress.
Renly was killed by a demon not-baby, probably because of that ham joke.
Well, OBVIOUSLY, Arya. We just saw that.
DRAGON!!! Which reminds me...
Dany did that for nine/tenths of the season. Whole lotta walking.
Cersei became a drunk. A wonderful, wonderful drunk.
TYRION PUNCHED THE SNOTTY VENOM OUT OF KING WEASEL-SNAKE.
Jon Snow did some stuff he shouldn't have, went North of the Wall, and got a touched-by-fire Wilding to grind on him. Not too shabby, Snow. Not too shabby.
Obligatory direwolf GIF.
Shae gave depressing advice to a girl who just became a woman. Period.
Some unknown HERO OF THE SEASON threw cow poop at King Weasel-Snake.
The Hound later got revenge on these literally gutless fellows.
Bronn thought that was funny.
Word.
The Kingslayer and (Lady) Brienne of Tarth sassed each other and went on adventures.
The scenes between Arya and Tywin had the world demanding a spin-off, at one point called "Awwww-ya and Ty-WIN." The person who came up with that title has since been charred and/or tarred.
Like Not Bran/Rickon.
Google saw an increase of 64,942% for the search phrase, "god of tits and wine."
Robb had sex with Charlie Chaplin's granddaughter because HE'S A GODDAMN FOOL.
Not because he had sex with her, but because he had sex with her.
Jaqen kicked a chicken.
Hot Pie talked about hot pies.
Blackwater happened.
Tyrion cut a dude's leg off.
Tyrion's face was slashed.
Podrick slayed the soldier who slashed Tyrion's face.
'Nuff said.
So, in summary: Jaqen changed his face in front of Arya and gave her a special coin.
Shae and Tyrion sat in a...creepy crypt of a room.
Jon Snow killed Halfhand, looked totally emo while doing so.
Sansa won't have to marry King Weasel-Snake, who threw her aside for Queen Ice Cream Cone.
Stannis saw something in fire.
Theon got mad at a horn.
Dany and the Big Ol' MacGuffin. But hey, Drogo!
And the White Walkers marched to the Wall.
Hodor.
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Ughhh…facepalm. Wanted to include this in the spoiler section, but I royally effed it.
I gotcha.
Brienne should be in that power ranking and you damn well know it, what’s more attractive than dealing out justice with a sword?
That list is for the girly girls, Brienne’s home would be on the Swag power rankings
I was shocked to find out this weekend that the actor who plays Grand Maester Pycelle was the villain in a movie I have seen 50 times, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (he chose poorly.) Even knowing it, I can barely recognize him as Pycelle.
Holy shit, I never realized that.
In an odd coincidence, I saw “Empire Strikes Back” again a week ago and only then noticed that the same actor is the commander of the AT-AT leading the attack on Hoth.
And this is him in Last Crusade. Poorly, indeed.
Mind. Blown.
He was also the voice of Benjy.
Oh you mean Commander Veers?
I know that off the top of my head but I couldn’t tell you my fiance’s cel phone number without looking it up on my phone.
/I’ve wasted my life.
I noticed about two years ago that General Veers was the same guy who played Donovan (the helmet and hat made it harder to tell), and then last year I noticed that Pycelle was that same guy. So it’s always fun seeing these threads… which I’ve seen at least thrice since then. That dude is good at being part of awesome franchises.
He is also Bond villain, Aristotle Kristatos, in For Your Eyes Only.
Just realized that I alluded to some upcoming things in response to some posts but I tagged them as spoilerish and didn’t really reveal anything major (would never do that). Please don’t ban me, I shan’t be doing that again
If you boil it all down, the season finale worked. Simple as that. All the stories and plot threads are exactly where they should be going into Season 3. We got a HUGE fucking treat in the reveal of the Fist of the First Men, which is at the start of book 3.
My one beef with it (not the House of the Undying, I could give a fuck about that scene honestly because the show has far deviated from ‘the prophecies’ and Dany’s storyline entirely) is that it didn’t give us an indication as to who/why Winterfell was burned. Readers know, but it’s important for later on.
Other than that, it was a good episode. Nothing will touch Blackwater – at least until Episode 9 of Season 3.
If/when Ygritte takes off her clothes, we’re gonna need a whole list just for her. It is KNOWN.
It is known.
As of yet… We know nothing…
“These bad people are what I’m good at. Out-talking them, out thinking them, it’s what I am. And I like it. I like it more than anything I’ve ever done.”
I would totally vote for the first Senator to use this in a campaign speech.
If Romney had a huge scar it WOULD make him a lot more bad ass.
Eh. If Romney drank Diet Coke it would make him a lot more bad ass.
If Romney jaywalked it would make him more badass.
If Romney played with a giant sized Jenga set it….
… nevermind.
Evil Scumbags Who Deserve to Suffer a Horrid and Graphic Death Weekly Power Rankings. This week:
#1. Joeffrey
#2 All the Ironborn
#3 Grand Maester Pycell
#4 Cersai
#5 Pyat Pree and Ducksauce (Oh wait they DID suffer horrid deaths!)
I just wonder what the first thing DuckSauce said once they got locked up. “So…I’m gonna kill you now, nothing personal?”
You should’ve put Joffrey on there twice.
What about Ducksauce’s lady friend?
I can’t believe Doreah sold-out Daenerys like that. What a fucking bitch. SHE LET YOU HANG OUT WITH HER DRAGONS, LADY!
Ros’ hostage duties didn’t last long. I’d love to know what Jaqen’s duties are. He’s not exactly in a hurry.
He’s a Faceless Man. They are considered the most mysterious and feared assassins around.
Yes, but what’s his mission and who’s paying for it?
I’m a little pissed that Ros is still alive.
I’d also like to know Jaqen’s duties…and I’ve read all the books.
I shall choose my words carefully here.
I’m pretty sure that in the books there is a brief chapter pertaining to Old Town that’s told from an assassin’s pov. Pretty sure that its Jaqen but GRRM only implies it.
But here’s the thing about the Faceless Men that’s really creepy:
yes you can hire them, but they also do what they do as a “service” to world at large. Think kinda like “Wanted” but with that stoooopid cotton gin of fate or whatever.
without. without goddamit. Josh I will give one of my Dragons for goddamn edit button. For serious.
And maybe some Chick-Fil-A.
I liked Jaqen’s first face more.
1. Thank you for no Shae on the Ladies’ rankings, But I think Ros deserves a spot on there tho because while everyone in Westeros would hate fuck the shit out of Cersei, Ros actually showed (some very nice) skin. And seriously guys… google image search Esme Bianco (yowza!)
2. Not really digging the changes to Jon but I can be patient. But seriously man him the fuck up please! We know he can fight, he just needs the rest of it.
Maybe Ygritte can bang some sense into him?
3. Tyrion is now entering his Rodney Dangerfeild phase. Poor guy.
4. The Varys/Littlefinger Back-Stab-Off is gonna be good. Varys has his fingers in way more pies than anyone knows and the writers know what real power players they both are.
5. I really liked how they gave Theon the catharsis with Luwin that he never got in the books. He really is very pitiable character and its its only gonna get gnarlier for Theon as the crap he’s pulled comes around on him.
6. Tywin’s horse pretty much said it all in regards to the Lannisters.
7. Valar Mohrgulis!!!!!! FUCK YESSSSSS… dont worry about Jaqen, he’s got shit to do and the face change doesn’t necessarily mean an actor change. That’s what a Faceless Man does (its in the skill set).
Almost forgot about Dany:
8. The roof, the roof, the Roof is on Fire
WE DONT NEED NO WATER LET THE MOTHERFUCKER BURN!!!
I loved what she did with Ducksauce. Too bad that Chick-Fil-A in the back of his Vault is closed on Sundays…
Now get her some Artisan Whitebread and some Unsullied STAT!
I don’t understand anyone who would complain about last night’s episode. It was 70 minutes of awesome. No less than 4 times did I cheer, alone in my home sitting on the couch…
#1 Brienne: “TWO of the women did not suffer?” *Thrusts sword!*
#2 Jaqen: “Jaqen is dead” *followed by turning around and WOAH!!!!*
#3 DRAGON ROAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#4 Theon stabbed post speech. How nice was that to let them finish?
Then there was Rob’s dumb decision to marry. I’m not a fan of real-life cheating on wives, but in a fantasy show… absolutely he should have married the other one, and F*** this one.
Its an epic goddamn facepalm in the books too…
I think it comes off worse here though
Theon was not stabbed, he was knocked out.
OK, so my fiancee had a great question: Why didn’t they just build another bridge instead of being “hostage” to the Freys? I mean they can build a wall 700 feet high out of ice, but can’t build a single span bridge across a river?
UGH, Freys.
@Leapin_Lizards The wall was built over thousands of years, and I’m betting it’s quicker to negotiate a marriage than to build a bridge for your massive army to cross.
@Leapin_Lizards: I think he explained it pretty well in the show – he was in a hurry and needed to cross because he thought he still had time to get to King’s Landing before they lopped off Ned’s head.
The look on Varys’ face when Ros grabbed where his dick should be is one of the funniest TV moments of all time.
oh crap forgot about that scene. “Littlefinger sees you merely as a profitable set of holes, but I see a partner”
Great line…
I forgot about that part of the episode, only because it didn’t really seem to fit. Everything else was dealing with more of the MAJOR characters, while Ros and Varys have always just been secondary types.
Serious question for book readers -
I wanted to wait until the series was over, but that looks like it’ll be 7 years from now, and I’m not sure I can wait until next season. Question being, should I just start reading the books now? Does it ruin the show for you at all?
I’ve read every book twice and enjoy the show very much. Sure there is some griping about what’s been cut/altered from the books, but so what. The books have a ton more depth, but don’t take away from show IMO.
I say start reading the books. It doesn’t ruin the show for me at all, because it is still a great show even with the changes made to it from the book.
I had read the books before the show started, and at the beginning I was constantly annoyed by little changes and whatnot. Now I just view the show and books as separate entities to be enjoyed independently. It’s definitely a lot of fun to speculate on what’s coming up though!
Same as the previous two. I wanted to wait until each season had aired to read the corresponding book. Just couldn’t do it – I burned through all 5 very quickly. Definitely has not ruined the show for me….honestly I think it’s enhanced it. You watch very closely to see how they handle things you enjoyed in the book.
All the cool kids are doing it.
Read them. They’re wildly entertaining and I don’t think they ruin the show in the slightest. The books are very detailed, and follow a lot of story lines. By the time the show roles around you can still ended up being surprised by some of the smaller plot points you had forgotten about, or changes made for the TV show that take things in a slightly different direction.
I agree, start reading. I read the books after season 1, then rewatched season 1 before season 2. I prefer to have the books unspoiled, and watch what I already have read.
Thanks for all the answers, guys.
Xander, I was going to do the exact same thing (wait until after the corresponding season to read the books). But I’ve just blown through 500 pages of Book 1 in a week and a half and there’s NO WAY I’m going to be able to hold out on Books 3-5 for over a year.
Fucking read the books ASAP. I read Game of Thrones after Season 1, with the caveat to myself that I would read Clash of Kings after Season 2.
I read every single book in a row after Game of Thrones. It will not detract from the series; the show is going to be so different as an adaptation – different journey, same results. If you come to accept that, you will love it. Just don’t expect it to be IDENTICAL or you will be upset.
That being said, the books are even better.
I am going to go against the grain and say hold off. The show is still great even after reading all the books before season 2 but its just not as good as being surprised by every twist and turn on Sunday. But you should definitely read them someday
@ Everybody Loves Waymond – I was in the exact same spot like 2 months ago. I’m on Book 4 and just completely hooked. It WILL slightly decrease your enthusiasm for the show – hence all our bitching on here – but the books are so good it’s worth it. Plus you get to see “ohhhhh that’s why that character has that trait” as opposed to the show where it’s like “Davos is loyal to Stannis…just go with it”
I’ll be a negative nilly and say don’t read the books. You’ll realize that instead of waiting a year for a new season, you’ll be waiting 5 years for a new book.
Seriously though, a Storm of Swords, is probably one of my favorite books of all time.
I thought the episode, and the season as a whole was amazing, and I have read the books. They handled a difficult scene, the House of the Undying, pretty well.
Also, the White Walkers weren’t marching on the Wall, they were marching on the Night’s Watch at the Fist of the First Men.
nice clarification. Disagree on the House of the Undying though.
It wasn’t really a scene I was desperately awaiting, so my expectations weren’t as high as some. I don’t think it would have been feasible to recreate the book scene, and the way they did worked for me.
I have read none of the books so I don’t know if this is “spoiler” speculation: is Jaqen really the sword teacher from the first season? They’re both from Bravos (sic?), he can change faces on command, he looks after Ayra to a degree beyond rational selfishness, and we never explicitly saw the teacher die last season…
Wrong. J’aqen is actually a secret dwarf hooker. Boom.
This popped up on the interactive stuff on HBOGO – [i177.photobucket.com]
@Ira, this is still open in the books. We’ve yet to see either Jaqen or Syrio Forrell again.
He does show up again. Twice actually.
Book Spoilers for A Feast for Crows
He is the Assassin in the Prologue then he shows up in the final Sam chapter. Don’t want to give too many details.
@Neeze, let’s take this down below the spoilers line just in case.
@Ira, highly improbable that he is Syrio Forel.
@Pat Bateman – not exactly correct. I’ll point you to Feast for Crows, without spoiling anything more.
Season 2 Hot Guy power rankings:
8. Bronn
7. Davos
6. Tyrion
5. Jaquen
4. Jon Snow
3. Robb
2. Jaime
1. Gendy
Gendry- shit. I guess I was so busy thinking of him shirtless that I couldn’t focus.
Makes sense, considering he made Arya go through puberty by swinging a sword
What, no Theon?
@Xander, Theon is at -4
Bobby, THAT’S NO SWORD!!!
Agree except I’d swap Jon and Robb. ANd Theon should be -100. Grosssssss.
I would go with:
10. Tie: Cameo Dream Drogo & Rakharo with his head- RIP Hot Ass Barbarian Dudes
9. Davos – please don’t be dead
8. Tyrion
7. Renly
6. Jon Snow and his so very sad face
5. Jorah – despite the bald spot highlighted in the finale
4. Jaqen – old face, not new horrible face
3. Robb
2. Jamie – preferably scruffy
1. Gendry
Theon makes me puke in my mouth a little.
Thank you for the Gendry.
Upon seeing the white walker army, my brain threw up in it’s own mouth.
–Tywin accepting the title of HOTK on horseback was as Tywin as it gets
–Here’s to hoping the Brienne and Jamie Lannister show features heavily in the third season.
–I wonder if we find out what Stannis saw in that fire.
–”Whoever kills that FUCKING hornblower will stand in bronze above the shores of Pyke!”
–So is Jaqen going to be played by a different actor? Is his name in the show still going to be Jaqen?
–As a non book reader, I hope I’m not alone in feeling that Dany’s scenes this season could have been trimmed significantly/cut almost completely and I wouldn’t have cared at all save for her last couple of scenes this episode. I’m sure they’re important to the future of the show, but mother of god, she might as well have been shouting “Waaaaaaalt!!!” instead of “my dragons”
–The “oh shit” looks on the rangers faces after the third horn blast was priceless.
–Braaaaaaaaains….I mean….Iron Throoooooone
What Stannis saw in the fire, via the BestWeekEver recap. I lost it.
If that was actually in the show I think I’d be ok with it.
Nacho, Funny you should say that about Dany’s scenes because coming into last night’s episode my feeling was exactly this: “Dany would still seem cool right now if they had just saved everything she did this season for EXPOSITION later on. They could just have her tell someone about her travels and we’d be caught up and she’d still be awesome.”
Then she finally went to the house of the undying and I dragon-related events ensued and I thought, “Okay, she’s cool again!”
In response to your bullets [SLIGHTLY spoilerish]
- Yup
- It will
- Wasn’t in the books, kind of alluded to…but alot of that shit is improvised. So I’m not sure how it’s going to play out (though I have some hopes based on books to come)
- lol
- Different actor – maybe. Name in show as Jaqen – no. And you will have to wait. Jaqen was an alias, his real name is uncertain.
- Dany…ugh this is the perennial struggle I have with her character. As a reader and fan of the show as well, GRRM seems to love Dany. I mean she has fucking dragons – the story seems to be about her. However, her story drags-on [sorry]. It happens even more so later on. However – have hope. This story was greatly altered and adapted for S2, and I have a feeling they will give Dany a lot more exciting shit to do; for book readers, her storyline in the show may be the most unique one because they simply can’t adapt her shit without making us all yawn.
- Third horn blast hasn’t happened in 1000 years…they’re scared
- That scene was a preview of the intro to Storm of Swords (and maybe my favorite scene in the whole series)
I actually think Danny’s story Arch in Book 3 is one of the most exciting in the whole series
Riiiiight, I’m sure if Daenerys had been completely absent from the first nine episodes, we wouldn’t have had any complaints at all about her being gone.
I have not read all the books (I’m about 100 pages into book 1), but I didn’t find last night confusing. I can see how some might find it a little disjointed & perhaps a little rushed, but not enough to take away from the good stuff. After spending all of Blackwater in Kings Landing, it was good to check-in with the rest of the characters/story lines. I found the cliffhangers to be exciting and they gave me just enough information to look forward to season 3 even more than I already would have. I thought all of Tyrion’s scene to be moving – his exchange with the eunuch (whose name I cannot spell) was impressive given how guarded both characters are and I too got a little misty when Shae got to her “You’ve got a shit memory.” line. I also teared up when Dany saw Drogo. And, Arya…she is just awesome.
Enjoy the books, the characters you hate on the show you’ll really hate in the books and the characters you love on the show you’ll really love. Do you plan on reading book 3 before next season?
I’ve decided to read the book after the corresponding season has aired. I’m really enjoying the TV show and I’m worried I’ll have too many expectations if I read the books first (see Games, Hunger and Potter, Harry).
Smello, I’m doing the exact same thing. I’m a little halfway thru book one. That being said, Catelyn Stark sucks.
Hah, I tried to do the “watch season then read book thing.” that lasted for one season. Just couldn’t wait. A Storm of Swords is the best book of the series….IMO, I can’t wait for season 3.
@Xander. SoS is being split into 2 seasons because it’s so long and badass. Hopefully they will use that same deductive reasoning and combine books 4 & 5 into a single badass season, since they’re both exceptionally meh.
I started reading book 2 after watching season 1 of GOT. So far I’ve read up through book 5, but have yet to read book 1. Does that make me weird?
@hee moy That’s exactly what I’ve done as well.
@ hee moy Nah but you definitely need to read Book 1. There are some things in the book that were left out in the show. i.e. Tower of Joy
The Tower of Joy and the Syrio scenes are the only bits I’ve felt compelled to read in Book 1 after only starting on the books after series one.
@heemoy, I did the same thing, but went back and read book 1. Glad I did.
So if I were to just jump into Book 3 that would be a mistake?
@SatansBigsby
Not a mistake really, but the show left out a lot of the smaller details of the book. You get the gist of everything from the show, and you would be able to figure out what is going on with who. If you are just DYING to find out what happens I’d say go ahead and start with book 3, but do go ahead and try to read all the books.
I was thinking I might as read the books now, cause I’ve looked on the internets to fill some gaps and it always seems to have major spoilers.
@MattK, exactly the predicament I’m in. Whenever I want a little extra back story something always pops up and spoils something for me
@UU
- I found I hated Cersei more on show than books, oddly enough.
- The protagonists (FEMALE) with POV…ugh. Show will exempt us from that and the females will be a lot more likeable in seasons to come
- Still fucking hate Joff throughout
After everything else that was going on, I was actually fairly disappointed that the season ended with the zombie horde. There are so many other storylines that I’m really invested in, something about them just made me weary. (Bad memories of The Walking Dead, I suppose.)
I’m sure I’ll be super wrong about it, but I just got REALLY PUMPED for dragons and wanted the season 2 to end just like season 1 did.
Yes, Dany boob should end every season of GoT EVAR!
Right, so it’s not a zombie horde. It’s wights – which have been in the show since season 1. The Others are actually incredibly dangerous, and incredibly significant. Without reading the books and getting too deep into the lore it’s hard to tell, but suffice to say that scene will pay off and you will not be disappointed. I’d say the Others are as important to the dragons in the history of Westeros. Don’t feel like it’s a cheap zombie add on – it has a purpose.
Jacqen needs his own spinoff.
Completely agreed. I was muttering “go with him, go with him” the entire time he was talking with Arya.
Though I’m not happy about the shape-shift though, that actor was awesome. Highlights and all.
I am really unhappy about the new face because I loved that actor, and the new face is beat.
Jacquen and Bronn walk into a brothel…
There, I’ve just pitch four seasons of the spinoff.
I just hope my boy, Samwell, made through the walkers alive. One of my favorite characters. Mainly because he just seems so doggone nice.
Samwell still being alive would be just as dumb as Tom Cruise’s son being alive at the end of War of the Worlds.
Oh, spoiler alert.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT SAMWELL
God, I hated that ending for WOTW.
It wasn’t just that the son was alive. Spielberg actually trotted out Grandma and Grandpa — who we’d never even fucking seen before — to assure us all that everyone was OK. “Sssh, ssssh. Go back to sleep, America.”
It completely ruined the movie. I actually really liked it before that, but I walked out of the theater swearing.
Saw it because I wanted the Earth to get its ass kicked and it made me regret wanting to do that. Then it ended with LOLJK EVErYoNE”S ALRIGHT.
So nice to hear I’m not alone on this. I really enjoyed the movie up until the second I saw the son still alive. It was infuriating.
I state this next observation with a staunch record of heterosexuality: Jacqen’s new face, major downgrade.
Epic horse shit during Twyin’s ceremony = obviously the best part of the finale.
Agreed
after that scene, my boyfriend said “well that was unnecessary” which i followed with, “OH YES IT WAS.” That horse shit was a highlight of how much Tywin just don’t give a fuck.
Does Stannis Baratheon have to choke a bitch?
I liked how Melisandre, after nearly being choked, went right back to Stannis and consoled / stroked him. “I know you just tried to choke me, but you’re having a bad day so let me hold you.”
I thought it was a little abrupt the way Rattleshirt just cut Jon Snow loose after he killed Half-Hand. The way it played out, I thought it looked more like he was really just defending himself from attack, not giving a ringing endorsement to the Wildlings.
Lets just say its a great show but they pretty much fucked everything to hell in Jon’s arch this season
Agree almost as much as I agreed that the horse-shit opening was awesome. Loved the not subtle depiction of Tywin coming to shit all over Joffrey, grandson or not.
Quorin said to Jon earlier that he would have to do something “when the time comes.”
Other than that, they didn’t do much to show that Quorin conveyed to Jon that he had to betray him to earn the trust of the Night’s Watch.
I agree with JCSK. I understand why they’re moving Jon’s plot along like they are, but his complete lack of development or growth is infuriating. There’s been no struggle or turmoil. none.
@Leapin
I am right there with ya, I’m trying to be patient but like I said elsewhere, I hope Ygritte can bang some damn sense into him.
HODOR
HODOR!
HODOR!!
LOBO! LOBO! BRING BACK ‘SHERIFF LOBO’!
hodor.
BECAUSE HOLY SHIT HE ACTUALLY WHISPERED “HODOR” WHILE PICKING THAT KID UP!
+1 limpy
…hodor
In the books we discover that Hodor’s last name is Roethlisberger.
How about a goddamn spoiler alert SOS!?
It cant be Rapistburger, he hasnt tried to date rape Osha, like not even a little bit.
@Otto
+1
Sansa comes out of nowhere to be the most intriguing character on the show. What is her ulterior motive for staying in Kings Landing? First Tyrion, then the Hound and now Littlefinger have all offered her safe passage, especially now that she is not betrothed to Joffrey. A man can only assume she is up to something. That smile as she walked away from the court was an amazing scene. Like the anti-Ed Norton in the end of Primal Fear.
I thought it was obvious that the Halfhand wanted Jon Snow to kill him from the last episode, and here he was going to keep at it until Jon went through with it.
Was I the only one that jumped up and screamed “NOOOOO!” when Shae offered to take Tyrion away?
I felt kind of gypped by how quickly Dany got through the House of the Undying, but damn she is so much more awesome when she’s not screaming for her dragons like Claire from Lost. She goes from annoying to badass in like 60 seconds.
I can’t believe that Tywin is just going to diss Tyrion like that. He appointed him Acting Hand, and Tyrion did a marvelous job. This shall not stand!
Needs. More. Direwolves.
I thought for sure Snow’s Dire Wolf would be the thing to win over the Wildlings. Which reminds me … where the hell did that Wolf go??
Sansa does have a big part to play in book 3. Also Tywin hates Tyrion and always has. In the books it is a little more apparent. Tywin like Cersei blames Tyrion for his wife’s death and is ashamed to have an Imp for a son.
I had thought that Tyrion seemed to gain some respect from Tywin when Tywin appointed him the acting Hand.
That’s the way it appears on the show, but in the books, what he actually thought to himself was “You’re only turning to me because you’ve given up on Jamie.”
Tyrion is now entering what I like to think of as his Rodney Dangerfield phase.
And also Tywin’s horse dump was THE metaphor for what the Lannisters have done to the Iron Throne. And it couldn’t have been more perfect.
Oh mommy look a pretty horsey… wait what is he doing? MOMMMY!!!
A few notes of my own — I got a little misty when Tyrion was brought to tears. Did anyone else hear the “He’s a God now” line from Caligula when watching Jeoffrey on the Iron Throne? Sansa’s laugh was worth all of her pouting all season long. Great payoff! Has any show ever gone two full seasons between the teaser at the start of season one (White Walkers) and the cliffhanger reveal at the end of season two? That’s almost Community-esque.
That reveal was so perfect.
Finally seeing that White Walker I was all like You’re my boy BLUE!!!
What was underwhelming about the House of the Undying? I enjoyed those scenes a lot, part of me was hoping the Warlock would be around for some time though. Can someone who’s read the books explain what was left out or poorly handled?
It was a lot more hallucinatory (is that even a word? I think it is) and it had a lot more spoilers for stuff to come. Even more spoiler-y that Bran’s vision of waves over Winterfell.
Yeah, I don’t think they could include all the spoilery stuff in the show. In the book, Dany doesn’t know who any of the people she was seeing in her visions, are. We as viewers would know exactly who it is. As buddha noted, it was like an acid trip.
Plus, in the book the house gets burned down to the ground.
She drinks a hallucinatory drug (a la the Water of Life of Dune; it’s even blue); she proceeds through an impossible building, seeing many visions, of things past, and things yet to come; and she comes finally to the room where the Undying are. They tell her a lengthy prophecy, which she will recall often in the future. Then they try to consume her, so Drogon burns that shit to the GROUND, y’all.
I figured they’d skip the visions, but was super disappointed that we didn’t get a prophecy.
I’d like to point out that there was a certain symbol over that tent and the tent was in the snow. SPOILERS! *COUGH* PRINCE WHO WAS PROMISED!
I thought the visions they went with were disappointing, (and not in the book), but I was really disappointed that the final scene was so far from how the book dealt with the end of the HotU. That would have been great, but maybe they blew the whole CGI thing on Blackwater
Right so, without going into too much detail: The House of the Undying in the books shows Dany three different prophecies of sorts, which go on to pan out as part of potential/actual events in Westeros. All very important scenes – and it would have been a massive spoiler.
The visions are different in the show, entirely, but it was kind of cool. They couldn’t really show what Dany sees without blowing stuff for later on.
@ thecursor – I went back and looked for the symbol and I couldn’t find it (unless you are talking about the 2 poles at the tent entrance). Either way, I still have no idea what you are talking about
Blackwater had me thinking the finale was going to be balls to the walls violent but before I watched the finale I realized there was too many story lines for a hour long episode to resolve. Who took Theon? If it was a Stark Army why would Winterfell be burned and Why would Maester Luwin tell the Stark boys to run? And who else does Theon have value too?
That’s what I didn’t quite get. Why would Stark bannermen burn Winterfell. I guess I’ll have to hurry through these books to get the answer.
I didn’t think it was Stark bannermen. The 500 men were from another Lord who was pledge to the Starks, but not actually Starks. I thought maybe there was another stab in the back. Perhaps they were from the house that Rob was supposed to marry into?
With this show, I’ve learned not to presume anything. They didn’t show who burned it.
Hell I read the books and I’m as confused as you. Suffice it to say that Theon’s stay at Winterfell ended differently in the book. Season 3 could go in any of several directions at this point
Pretty sure what happened was that Theon’s Ironborn crew knocked him out themselves, because they’d rather retreat back to Pike than die defending Winterfell. Dagmer even said “Let’s go home.” The Ironborn then burned Winterfell before leaving.
For me, it was a disappointing departure from the book. I’m assuming that something will happen to them on their way back to the sea to continue Theon’s storyline.
All we know about these 500 bannermen is that they were led by Lord Bolton’s “Bastard,” whom we haven’t met yet.
I’m going with “he really is a bastard” and sacked Winterfell and will pin it on the Greyjoys. I mean, could 20 men start a fire that 500 men surrounding the fire couldn’t put out?
Well I know who burned it down because I read the books but I’m not sure if I’m supposed to say because of spoiler
Ugh, this was the most important thing for me that they left out. Here’s the simple answer:
The show adapted the book’s events, but Winterfell IS burned and raised. He is not taken by the Greyjoys at the end like we see in the show.
*SPPOIIIIILLERRRRR*
The Stark bannermen – men from the Dreadfort – are the ones that burn Winterfell when they seize it from the Greyjoys. I’m going to go with them having burned it in Season 2, and we learn that at the start of Season 3. They could have EASILY conveyed this with a comment from Master Luwin, or a glimpse of some Greyjoy corpses in the yard, but they didn’t. Pretty big bummer, but whatever. They’re not shortcutting that story or amending it – it’s important later on.
Stannis: “You mean Razed”
Blackwater had me thinking the finale was going to be balls to the walls violent but before I watched the finale I realized there was too many story lines for a hour long episode to resolve. Who took Theon? If it was a Stark Army why would Winterfell be burned and Why would Master Luwin tell the Stark boys to run? And who else does Theon have value too?
I haven’t seen it yet because I went to a concert last night, but I’m almost afraid to watch it, because I’ll probably go into GoT withdrawal when it’s over.
WRITE FASTER, GEORGE R.R. MARTIN, YOU MISANTHROPIC NERD SANTA CLAUS.
lol +1
After a incredibly slow beginning this season really picked up around episode 6. I was actually thinking about quitting the show at one point it was so slow. But the great Peter Dinklage was enough for me to continue watching. And the episode Blackwater was so amazing it was totally worth it. Peter is in for another Emmy for that episode.
Apropos of nothing but because this has GIF in the title. Because of Friday’s GIF post I watched all of Better Off Ted this weekend for the first time. Thank you for that, hilarious.
“Racial Sensitivity” is an amazing episode of TV.
This is how I replay the conversation between Jaqen and Arya in my head:
Arya: Klaatu Barada Nikto.
Jaqen: Well, repeat them.
Arya: Klaatu Barada Nikto.
Jaqen: Again.
Arya: I got it, I got it! I know your damn words, alright?
What with all the dragons, and warlocks and Magic Queefs and White Walkers, doesn’t this war with the swords and spears just seem a little, I don’t know, trivial?
Exactly what I was thinking of in that scene
Gods be praised! I was starting to feel all alone here.
well does anyone is Westeros even know about the white walkers? and only few know (rumors) of the dragons. They’re in for a big surprise, I’m sure.
What SisterJac said. Those poor bastards have no idea what’s in store for them.
Varys received reports from the NightsWatch about it. Most of the small council rejected it as fairy tales.
Overall a good season, still a great series. I still need to temper my expectations when comparing the show to the books. Going to be some long months before season 3 starts.
Yeah, I felt like Season Two was like the Two Towers … a lot of walking, a few battles to keep you tuned in … but goddamn, this Season 3 had better make with the Epic … big dragons, undead armies, y’know … the payoff.
@UpstateUnderdog you’re a reader so you have as high hopes for S3 as me.
That being said – i bet they play close to the book for Season 3. They said it would handle half of Storm of Swords, roughly. So that allows them a lot more time to focus on the details.
Gotta love that of the two black characters in GoT, one is a thief who only wants to bang a rich white bitch and the other gets caught with a hooker and subsequently is exposed to have no money in the bank because he spent it all on his bejeweled gaudy mansion.
Well neither was black in the books so HBO must be RAYCESS!
Would have preferred a full post, always appreciate the bullet points to remind me of scenes I might have forgotten, especially with so much jumping back and forth.
Having not read the books I’m enjoying the hell out of the Brienne/Kingslayer buddy comedy – Two quick deaths? Amazing.
Dass Rassis!!
Stupid page reloading as I type…. that was supposed to go ^^
No Sansa in the rankings? For shame.
And no Melissandre, WTF. She can have my shadow baby any day.
Yeah. Melisandre not in the top five means we can’t be friends.
The “attractive girls under age of consent” rankings will come later. And yes, Sansa’s #1.
Sansa, left off for legal reasons.
Melisandre, a strong #6. Only room for one redhead.
Only room for one redhead? Not in my bed!
One redhead? What kind of Tywinhorseshit is that? There can be two blondes but only one redhead? Feh!
I enjoyed the season finale and I think from here on out I’m going to stop comparing everything to the books, the show has taken a life of its own and I’m perfectly OK with that.
Season 2 Bad Ass power rankings:
8.- Theon
7.- Rob
6.- Tywin
5.- The Hound
4.- Brienne
3.- Tyrion
2.- Stannis
1.- Jaquen
Ummm… missing a certain sellsword on this list, are we???
@Cockstady. You mean the guy who said “There are no goats, Half Man,” right?
@Watanabex: regarding your first point, to me, there’s no question that GoT is a fantastic show, one of the three or four best on television (as Josh so eloquently put it, it is a “show about ice zombies, sorcery, dragons, political backstabbing, real backstabbing, demon babies, and direwolves, with an ample amount of boobs and violence”). But the show is not an original creation, and in light of that, it’s impossible to ignore the source material in the books (assuming you’re the reading type). Even taking into account the fact that you can go into much greater detail in the books when you don’t have the budgetary and time constraints of a TV show, there was just so much that was markedly better in the books than on the TV show, and a lot of times it seemed like the show changed things for the sake of change rather than for any practical reason. As a fan of the TV show, I enjoyed myself thoroughly and can’t wait for next season. But as a book nerd, I give this season a “B”, and I’m being generous leaving off a minus.
/pushes glasses back up with index finger
Needs more Bronn
/takes miamidiesel’s glasses, adjust to fit own nose, clears throat into pocket hanky
I see your point and having read the books agree that they’re probably better. But I have to admit that I like the alternate possibilities the show is raising, especially with a lot of characters now having potentially different storylines going forward. I’m wondering if the showrunners are thinking that there’s no way they can wait for Martin to finish the books, (he’s said that he has 5 years to finish the 6th book and there’s supposedly at least 7 planned), (which by the way, WRITE FASTER GODDAMMIT), so they’re going to do what they can with 5-6 seasons and wrap things up on their own terms. I could be wrong but I think the series will wrap up on its own terms and probably very differently from the books. And I’m OK with that.
/gives back glasses, proffers hanky for cleaning
Was the white walker on the horse supposed to be Benjen Stark? He seemed to have a similar hair-line.
I don’t think so, no.
I assumed that was Blue from “Old School.”
Just to clarify. The White Walkers(aka The Others) are the ones with the screechy voices. This episode is the first time we’ve seen ones face on screen. The resurrected dead(zombies with blue eyes) are referred to as “wights”, they are created by the White Walkers.
Otto I had the exact same same thought when I saw that wrinkly grimace lol
No, it is definitely not Benjen Stark.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER THREAD
Bake ‘em away, toys.
I get that they can’t show the Red Wedding part of the House of the Undying, but cutting everything else out just kind of made it worthless to me. I guess I was just looking forward to it the whole season.
I cannot imagine how confusing the Theon plotline is right now for those who haven’t read the books. Eventually they’re going to have to actually introduce Ramsay, I would think.
The Winterfell burning/Bran & Rickon fleeing did not make any sense at all without the context of Ramsey Bolton doing his Bastardly business.
The rewriting of The House of The Undying was intriguing though. That was the Iron Throne room, destroyed and covered in snow. Is that what awaits Dany when she finally gets there?
I was hoping that they would show the house of the undying getting burned to the ground by the dragons.
Also, the Jaqen face change scene made me happy. Glad they included that.
“That was the Iron Throne room, destroyed and covered in snow. Is that what awaits Dany when she finally gets there?”
Could be a reference to Aerys II ordering the destruction of King’s Landing, the vision where he says let them be the King of Ashes?
Anyone else disappointed that they revealed Littlefinger wanting to help Sansa escape so early? That was a neat surprise in the books that I think TV viewers will miss out on.
I agree about the scene where Winterfell is burned to the ground. I wish they had shown Ramsey coming into Winterfell.
CuriousGeorger
They are. Ramsay Snow casting has been confirmed for year 3. Can’t wait for him to turn on the Irioborn and kill them when they turn Theon over
One thing I like about the show is that they are heavy handed with things that sometimes are so nuanced in the books that my stupid brain doesn’t see it. And I assume all of the direction has Martin’s approval. So the Undying scene was exciting to see what at first was confirmation on the whole Jon/Lyanna/Rhaegar/Dany direction with the burned out King’s Landing yet covered in snow and the inclusion of the wall. But then she was in the tent with Drogo pledging undying love and hell, I don’t get it.
“But then she was in the tent with Drogo pledging undying love and hell, I don’t get it.”
Was anyone else expecting them to start going at it then it cuts to the warlock giving her the angry blue inch?
Gotta say I was looking forward to the dwarf gangrape vision though. Maybe Dinklage just didn’t want to get out-dwarfed.
I think the writers could’ve done more with the non-Blackwater stories in episode 8 to make this last episode feel less cluttered. Remember, that episode was kind of a slow character build for a lot of people. They put some HOTU and that Luwin conversation with Theon into that episode to make this one go better.
Still, the show has done a remarkable job adapting the books. I hope the next season starts right after football season so my Sundays are booked pretty nicely.
All I know is they better cast a badass actor for Ramsay.
@JoshK classic line i’m sure you’ve been waiting to use. kudos!
Alan Sepinwall wrote an intriguing review. He stated its getting to the point where if you haven’t read the books you really don’t know the little nuances or even in some spots what the hell is going on i.e. (why winterfell was burning, and that those things were Wights not White Walkers). They need to clear things up without destroying the storylines.
Also trying to remember from the books, The Nights Watch were attacked by Wights and White Walkers or just Wights? I do remember Sam killed a White Walker. Because of course something else they will have to explain is that fire kills Wights but only Dragonglass can kill White Walkers.
There’s also the scene in the book where Sam tries to use the Dragon Glass to kill homeboy that got reanimated but it doesn’t work so he hits him with a burning log or something of that sort and it catches him on fire.
Mandalay! I’ve come aflame again!
Did book 2 even have white walkers? My reading comprehension is pretty bad, but I don’t remember a horde of them walking towards the wall. I just thought the show had decided to have Sam go ahead and use the Dragon glass to show how it works.
Nah they fast tracked the Sam and Jon parts,they sped up the beyond the wall plotline, which was a great call.
If Peter Jackson were directing this show 85% of it would have been walking, as opposed to 20%.
Yeah see that is another thing they will have explain next season, but maybe they are leaving all these questions on purpose. I just don’t want people to be disappointed. The horde is heading to the Fist of the First Men where all the Nights Watch are camping hence Grenn and Edd making a run for it. I guess its hard to tell since they haven’t shown where all the Nights Watch were for a few episodes.
The Winterfell/Ramsay thing was a mess.
The Ironborn obviously made a deal to trade Theon for their freedom. That much could be inferred. Problem is, cut to scene of bran and the kids walking by their smoldering home completely unconcerned. Why would Robb’s bannermen burn his home? Especially if the Ironborn surrendered? Why wouldn’t the kids care or ask questions? I’ve read the books so I know the why, but Benioff and Weiss shouldn’t have expected viewers to remember some tossed off character who is never even shown, then assume he went off his rocker and burned Winterfell because, uh…..
For a show this surefooted that was a pretty glaring error. Otherwise, great episode, even better season.
In that case, can we expect the clusterfuck at Craster’s camp to happen and the shit Jon deals with by being a “turncloak”? I suppose they could go ahead and have the ice zombies fuck shit up and have only a few Crows surviving along with Gilly and Sam.
So obviously they can’t really kill Sam off because he’s the only connection to the rest of the Knight’s Watch for the moment, but in regards to how the hell he survived that scene, maybe that the HNIC White Walker sees that he has a Dragon Glass dagger and is like “fuck it, fatty isn’t worth it” and when he’s screeching to go forward he’s communicating to the zombie tropes to ignore him?
Am I reading too much into this?
Then where the hell was I? And who’s this Cheryl?
I agree but they would’ve had to cast Ramsay for one episode and I don’t think HBO really likes paying an actor if they don’t have to.
I guess it would have caused more questions also like as to why a Stark bannermen would burn Winterfell.
I bet they just open Season 3 with Theon in the dungeon at the Dreadfort.
Reek, Reek, it rhymes with freak.
I thought the HoU scenes in the show were supposed to be interpreted as machinations of the warlocks to tempt Dany into staying and being their power source. The throne room, Drogo and Rhaego . . . she certainly seemed tempted into staying with the Khal, at which point she would have been trapped with her dragons forever. My interpretation at least
The scenes with Jon beyond the Wall were totally screwed as soon as the show made the decision to have Ygritte escape and Jon chase her. We lost all emotional connection to Qhorin as a mentor to Jon, not to mention the way his death was portrayed in the show was muddled and confusing. Plus Jon just looks like a punk bitch now. I understand the need to play up Ygritte as a character and love interest, but why not save it for season 3?
Theon’s arc was the best of the season in my opinion, and the ending was only a little botched. My non-book friends who watched the show thought the fleeing Ironborn set Winterfell on fire, which is a reasonable interpretation. If they open season 3 with a treat between Dagmer and Ramsay where it’s revealed the Krakens burnt Winterfell and plan to exchange Theon in return for safe passage (before getting brutally slaughtered by Ramsay, natch) I’ll be happy
Surprised there WAS a Stannis survival reveal, and that there WASN’T one for Davos. Interested where his storyline goes, seeing as how Shireen has been cast and the majority of book 3 you have no clue what dude is up to
All in its tough to find things complain about when you consider how great of an adaptation the show has been. I was fine with the House of Undying stuff as well as Jon Snow’s scenes and Little-finger revealing his intentions towards Sansa. The latter, I assume was done to give the viewers some sense of comfort over her fate.
My only grip was the burning of winterfell. They set that up with the conversations with Roose, him referring to his Bastard, etc. I thought that should have been a perfect cliff-hanger for Season 3, revealing a major villian for the next season(s).
Yeah the JonQhorin thing was a clusterf*ck. Qhorin giving him the order prior to the fight was key in the books. Also prior to being surrounded by wildlings in the books, Qhorin and Jon recite the Nights Watch Oath together…very stirring moment.
Also didn’t like Rattleshirt cutting Jon loose and just acting like “Ok he’s one of us.” In the books Lord of Bones is super distrusting and an asshole.
And the fight scene is lackluster. Qhorin is the much better fighter until Ghost bites down on his leg producing a chance for Qhorin to purposely let down his guard. But i’m fine with how they did considering the CGI restraints.
I’d rather they just make Ramsay accountable for it all. They need to be set up as the most evil of everyone in Westeros, Ramsay burning Winterfell would be a good step for that.
@Neeze re:Jaqen – Obviously the assassin in the Prologue and in Sam’s last chapter is a faceless man from Bravos, but I don’t think Martin has explicitly stated this right? Just fan’s assumptions?
I can’t read the whole thread as I haven’t read the books yet. but can someone let me know what differences there were in Theon’s story? In particular, I had some shithead spoil the fact that he dies (at least, he heavily implied it) and so I’ve just been waiting for that to happen all season. I like Theon’s story, that scene from last night with Luwin was particularily strong, and would like to see more of him. Was he supposed to die at Winterfell?
@Satanbigsby – Theon does not die at Winterfell at the end of Book 2. Ramsay Snow (ie Roose Bolton’s bastard who was alluded to in the show) tricks Theon into trusting him, then murders all the ironborn except Theon who he takes as prisoner. Also, Theon is still alive at the end of Book 5, although he repeatedly wishes he wasn’t.
Yeah Theon doesn’t die. He might have been referring to him basically “becoming” Reek though.
The chapter Martin recently released from the new book is a Theon POV chapter. Either your friend was talking about the Reek stuff or he’s an idiot.
Thanks, looking forward to that. Real Edmund type. Guess I have to read the books now, I don’t think there’s a way to hold off another year.
I just wanna say that I really really liked how they handled Maester Luwin dying by Heart Tree, as readers of book 5 know, thats gonna be a cool payoff later.
@Satan I think Ramsey Bolton says thathe killed Theon, so for the better part of two books you believe that Theon is dead. It tunrs out that he;s just a torture plaything for one sick MFer.
I complained about this before but the only changes they’ve done that have really bugged me have been the ones to Jon’s story. Other tweaks may disappoint to a degree but the overall portrayal of his character has been so bad this year that it actually violates the SPIRIT of the source material. Hell I’ve even had nonbook readers complain that this bummbling Season 2 Snow bears little resemblance to his portrayal in Season 1.
@ Surly apart from Bran and Rickon not being split and any eavesdropper not having much of a clue as to where they might be going. I really think the show has made a pig’s ear of the whole Winterfell/Bran & Rickon/Theon & Reek storyline with its attendant payoffs down the line.
I agree with the Chiefs RB. The show took the effort to flesh out Theon’s story more so than the books did, and he’s not even a “central” character.
@Charlie
I’m inclined to agree with you on the whole but they did keep putting in these little touches that made it just ok for me, like Theon getting some really great catharsis with Luwin kinda sets up how pathetic and pitiable he is, and I dont think anyone will disagree that Theon gets his for all the shit he’s pulled (thanks Ramsay).
They won’t have to introduce Ramsay if they cut that entire plot line loose and instead use it as Frey men in retaliation for the Jeyne Westerling thing. Then Robb goes to the Twins to try to make amends and it goes downhill from there.
The Ramsay thing is confusing even having read the books…
@Pat, RE: Jaqen
It’s never explicitly stated in the books, but the description of the Alchemist matches that of the new look of the Faceless Man once known as Jaqen.
@Myth
No shit!? I hadn’t quite made that connection! I knew about the prologue thing in Old Town but that’s really cool (if true).
I always thought that the assassin from the prologue was one of the Iron born brothers (Victarion?) and the trinket he acquired from the Citadel was the dragon horn. A faceless man makes more sense because Arya kills the rich man in Bravos using the same method.
Anyways, was glad they didn’t show all the prophecies from The House of the Undying, I’m too busy spinning my head about them as is.
Nah, those wacky Iron Born aren’t really into subtlety
@ Pat @ surly backing up Myth’s comment. The Alchemist’s description matches that of the guy Jaqen turns into. I imagine if that scene makes it into the show, they may just use the guy that payed Jaqen, since his appearance in old town won’t really make a difference.
I think the Winterfell mystery would have worked fine if Luwin had just told Osha “don’t trust the Boltons”
I’m just gonna go out on a ledge here and put Daenerys on the top of the bad ass rankings cuz dragons be melting faces.
I was just thrilled she actually DID something.
I also like how she only has Jorah and the one Dothraki with her approaching the House of Undying but when it comes to looting XX’s palace it’s party time and every fucker’s there.
I was hoping for Belwas and Whitebeard to show up last night.
@UU You and me both. If I don’t get to see a fat swordsman in a tiny vest next season THERE WILL BE SEVEN HELLS TO PAY.
@ UU. Yeah, me too. Hopefully Dany’s first scene in the next series will have her down the docks looking for a ship when Jorah notices that they are being followed.
Yeah I follow Ian McIlhenny (sp?) on twitter. He was the Barristan Selmy in the first season. Hoping he’ll be picked up for season 3.
I am very much looking forward to Artisan Whitebread and Belwas but I understand why they’re saving them for Season 3