
In one corner, we have cranky reporters, who have been embedded in lodgings around Beverly Hills for the past two weeks for the Television Critics Association press tour. In the other, Aaron Sorkin and his show for HBO, The Newsroom, which is bringing in good ratings, but terrible reviews. The two met yesterday for what should have been an awkward, Michael Patrick King-style bloodbath, but instead, it was a stalemate, with critics calling Sorkin out on his sh*t and Sorkin refusing to admit that The Newsroom is anything but amazing.
On bad reviews:
“For sure we all know that there were critics who did not enjoy watching the first 4 episodes — and there were critics that did. Anytime that people are talking this much about a television show, it’s good for television…good for people who watch television and good for people who work in television.” (Via)
On reportedly sh*tchanning all the writers, except his ex-girlfriend:
“A couple of weeks ago, an unsourced and untrue story appeared on the Internet. The writing staff was not fired. I love the writing staff. I thought we did great this year, and it’s a fantastic group of men and women to come to work with. But at the end of each season, you get together with the producers and the department heads and you talk about ways that you can get better. So, a couple of staffing changes were made — including promoting two of our writers’ assistants.” (Via)
Sorkin also mentioned that, contrary to rumors, he never dated staff writer Corinne Kingsbury, who not only briefly appeared in episode five as a stripper, but also, as commenter Alvis pointed out, played the “brunette topless wrestling chick from Old School.” RANGE.
On new consultants:
Newsroom‘s second season will include a vast range of behind-the-scenes “paid consultants” who will contribute to the series, as opposed to the handful of sources Sorkin utilized during the series’ freshman run. (Via)
On working in the past:
Sorkin revealed that the series will “always be about 9-12 months behind” real-life current events addressed on the show-within-a-show. (Via)
This has been one of my biggest gripes about The Newsroom so far, and it looks like I’ll be bitching about it for (gulp) seasons to come. Setting the show nine months in the past is cheap in two ways: 1) It takes advantage of a viewer’s emotional attachment to a real-life tragedy, like Gabrielle Giffords being shot, and reduces it to a pile of Coldplay-assisted mush; and 2) Sorkin can always make Atlantic Cable News seem perfect. Sure, all the OTHER networks immediately pronounced Giffords dead, but NOT NEWS NIGHT. Something something Cronkite!
On Newsroom‘s problems writing for female characters:
Sorkin says he “completely respects” the opinion that the show’s women are portrayed in a less flattering light than its male characters, “but I 100 percent disagree with it. I think the female characters on the show are every bit the equals of the men…Caring about other people more than themselves, [being] thoughtful, serious, plainly smart, being great team players — those to me are what define the characters, and by the way, I’d say the same thing for the actresses who play them. Once you have that down, you can have them slip on as many banana peels as you want. That’s just comedy.” (Via)
He’s so full of himself here. To put things in perspective: Olivia Munn is the most fully formed female character on The Newsroom, and during a dramatic scene in last week’s episode, she freaked about her weight. What else? Emily Mortimer’s MacKenzie McHale constantly has gum stuck in her hair and was defended by Sorkin at the panel because of the “loyalty” she showed by staying with Will McAvoy, a man, while Alison Pill’s Maggie signed a condolence card “I’m sorry about your loss, LOL” because she thought “LOL” stood for “Lots of Love” and has a lady friend who barges in the newsroom and begins screaming about Valentine’s Day. Yeesh.


Todd VanDerWerff discusses this over at the A.V. Club, but I think what bugs so many people about The Newsroom — other than what’s listed above and the middle age white guy bloviating that makes you want to scream — is that it doesn’t feel like an HBO show. If it was on USA or TNT, we’d expect and accept any number of problems, but because it airs on Sunday nights on HBO, the same night and channel as The Sopranos and The Wire, we want it to be amazing, to feel like we’re watching something special. Instead, we’ve got Dev Patel raving about Bigfoot. Sorkin does one have strong defender, though:

Why, Kristen? Why?



It doesn’t seem like an HBO show. It seems like an NBC show, just like Studio 60 and The West Wing. There’s no stylistic difference that I can see. This will go to syndication on another channel without much need to chop out the “racey” moments because there aren’t many.
I don’t think it’s perfect. It’s something I DVR and watch later. I enjoy it and it beats the hell out of every single thing on the big 3 right now. Sorkin will never admit to the massive recycling he does, and to me that’s the thing that holds it back. I spend too much time now thinking about all the places his characters have already said and done these things. Once I can lose that stigma I’ll go back to enjoying it more.
Why couldn’t Sorkin have fought this hard for Sports Night?
It’s not an HBO show, because that doesn’t mean anything. It’s an Aaron Sorkin show, and a damn good one at that. You know what else airs on Sunday nights? True Blood, which is a pile of shit this season. The Newsroom has smart characters that are relatable. Yeah, it’s not a perfect representation of news, but that’s not the point. The point is to call out Fox News and all of the other assholes in the media who don’t do the news right.
I get the critiques, but it’s Sorkin. Deal with it. Why was anyone surprised?
This.
YES! i actually watch the politically driven dram/rom/com because surprisingly, i like polotics! it’s basically a love/hate letter to the news world and i appreciate what they’re doing. what bothers me is that people are actually confused by the idea that women can actually be dumb and smart in the same scene. news flash! everyone has moments of stupidity and genius throughout they’re lives. I know plenty of women who are complete messes who worry about their hair and body weight and who make mistakes daily but it doesn’t make them any less intelligent and amazing.
if anything the guys are pretty sloppy and ridiculous. there’s the asshole boyfriend who constantly insults and aggrivates everyone on set and behind the scenes. there’s the nerdy pakistany guy who writes the blog and was obsessed with bigfoot (for one goddanm episode, give it a break) and the quiet but caring shy guy who suffers almost daily from foot in mouth syndrome. they’re all a little eccentric and thats fine. it’s interesting. and on top of all that, they’re saying things that i agree with about polotics and world. i couldn’t be more thrilled in front of a tv screen.
I agree with everything said in this line of comments. I like the show and honestly, until someone points out one of these little bitches and moans, I don’t notice them. After seeing what they consider to be a deal breaker, I still don’t care.
Also, McAvoy bought a ring that costs more than most people’s houses because he’s an emotional mess about Mac but I don’t hear people losing their fucking minds about him being Emo.
Find another show to bash already. There’s a great little article on this very site about pregger Teens and their pregger Moms that these people really should be focusing their attentions on.
Thank you, WRS. All these people who talk about the “weak” female characters seem to miss the fact that Jim is a bumbling idiot at least half the time; Neal is a colossal, sometimes caricaturish nerd; Will is a major-league asshole, to his own detriment; and Charlie is constantly drunk, and a minor-league asshole. Those are significant flaws, approximately on par with those of the female characters. If you wanna say all the characters are weak, that’s fine, and I think it’s true (thus far); but don’t make it an issue of sexism.
Why, Kristen? Why?
Duh, everyone knows she loves sloths.
I feel like I’m hate-watching all the personal interactions/romantic subplots while simultaneously accepting the Sorkinitude of the rest and somehow still enjoying it enough to keep watching.
Basically I stand by what I said from the beginning — which is that as long as Sam Watterson continues to drunkenly drop F-bombs, I’m good.
Yeeeeah, the more I hear about this show, the happier I am that I didn’t start watching it. There’s enough stuff for me to get pissed at in real life.
I still enjoy this show somehow, but Maggie’s character is starting to make Manny look tolerable and Mac isn’t too far behind her.
Interesting that 5 years ago I probably couldn’t have told you anything about the head writers of my favorite shows but now I can say with confidence that Aaron Sorkin, Dan Harmon, and Kurt Sutter are insufferable dickheads.
Reporters should thank their lucky stars that anybody takes them seriously. Women should get used to the fact that men have weird ideas about them.
I made a deal with myself earlier this year to not like anything I don’t actually like. That sounds confusing, but basically I’m tired of the whole idea of liking thing ironically. There’s too many other things I haven’t seen that I want too.
Never mind the fact that I’m so sick of politics and the news that half the time I don’t even want to watch The Daily Show.
I want to be your friend.
Now that someone else snatched her dream role in the Hunger Games, Kristen must be looking for more work. It’s the only excuse I can come up with for why anyone would like this show.
Or rather, why anyone would publicly suck up to this show’s lead actor.
I enjoy watching the show, it’s entertaining, and Sorkin’s dickishness aside, he’s great at the back and forth banter. The only real problem I have with it is that it’s so heavy handed. I’m pretty liberal, and even I spent a bunch of time during the last few episodes thinking”WE GET IT, TEA PARTY BAD, NOW MOVE ON”
Every time I read about Newsroom, I realize just how repetitive Sorkin’s characters and writing are, and I always find something else that someone seemed to miss. An old officemate and I used to play West Wing/Sports Night/American President trivia with each other, until we came down to identifying which lines of dialogue had been repeated and trying to remember which episodes or scenes they came from. Newsroom isn’t as much fun a Sports Night and it isn’t as good as West Wing, but I’m still enjoying it because, for as much as every episodes seems unpleasantly familiar, Sorkin still writes better than almost everyone on TV and he creates characters that I can buy into. I believe that Will McAvoy could exist and that his character would pay the ransom for an Egyptian stringer. I believe that Neal would insist on contributing. I believe that Leona Lansing would undermine her own talent to protect other elements of her business. Yeah, most of the women are somewhat flat, but they’re not stupid and they’re not incompetent and they are still relatable. So, I’ll probably keep watching Newsroom because spot-the-Sorkinism is mildly amusing and because even this half measure of the West Wing’s gravitas and other half of Sports Night’s fun is still a better-crafted universe than 90% of what’s on TV.
People who are prone to feeling strong antagonistic emotions are going to feel strong antagonistic emotions.
sounds like kristen bell is trying to land herself a role on newsroom, which i for one, welcome.
That LOL misunderstanding has to be based on this story about British Prime Minister David Cameron: [www.guardian.co.uk]
All of this (the show, critics’ rambling, blogs, and comments) is sad. I think the media and politics (national and local) is a circus and arguing for any one side makes you as imbecilic as any other side. Sorkin and subsequently his characters feel they are outside of this circle and therefore are prophets giving us real truth. But in reality he is just another voice trying to hide under the illusion of art and the last episode was a perfect demonstration of it. Fuck Sorkin.
And the comparison argument that this is better than other shows so we should like it? Holy sheesh. I like Ong Bak 2. Just don’t dress it up as high minded and I’ll drink the koolaid. But as soon as you start pretending to teach us, please, oh dear LAWD, please don’t pander.
Living in the past is probably the most groan worthy part of the show, like a mud in the face “ha-ha, this is how you do it” sort of thing. I think they could’ve easily pulled a Law & Order and stayed topical, but original.
Reason #1 the show doesn’t feel like an HBO show: Aaron Sorkin is HORRIBLE at profanity. HBO gave us Bunk and McNulty’s “Fuck” scene, as well as everything said in Deadwood. Sam Waterston and Harry Dunne seem so unnatural using any profanity.
Sam Waterston’s “I’m a marine and I will beat the shit out of you” reminded me of a coked out 19-year-old frat boy getting all up in someone’s grill at the foam party.
It’s funny how both this show and Girls have managed to get so many people loudly expressing all these strong opinions. The more I read about The Newsroom, the more it becomes apparent that critics live within an echo chamber similar to that in which the news media exists. Seems to sometimes be more about responding to (usually agreeing with) other critics’ opinions than it is about independently gauging the shows.
will you piss off with your pretending the show is sexist.