
Saturday Night Live begins its 38th season this weekend, with host Seth MacFarlane and musical guest Frank Ocean. (Consider this your reminder that we'll have a recap up Sunday morning.) There's been a large turnover since last season ended with the cast, Mick Jagger, Arcade Fire, and the Foo Fighters singing "She's a Rainbow" to Kristen Wiig, who departed along with Abby Elliott and Andy Samberg. They've all had largely nice things to say about their time working on SNL since leaving, but that hasn't always been the case. There's been plenty of fussin' and fightin' amongst cast members, writers, guest stars, the network, and (especially) Lorne Michaels since the sketch series first aired in 1975. Here are 10 of the most bitter behind-the-scenes feuds.
Chris Kattan vs. Norm Macdonald

In November 1997, Mr. Macdonald talked about his feelings toward Mr. Kattan in an interview with Rolling Stone: “I don’t know, but to me he seems gay...He claims he’s not, but I’ve never seen, like, a guy who’s not gay seem so gay. I don’t find him funny. What can I say? Never made me laugh.”
In the same article, Mr. Kattan responded: “Norm gives me a hard time...If Norm says I’m gay, then put in that I say he’s an asshole.”
While the in-print bickering made for good copy, people who were around Saturday Night Live when both Mr. Macdonald and Mr. Kattan were cast members said it carried over into the show. “They had a very acrimonious relationship,” said a source connected to SNL. “Norm would rip [Mr. Kattan] to his face. Norm’s a weird guy. If he doesn’t like someone, he’ll say it to his face.” (Via)
Winner: What, Chris Kattan seems gay? In that outfit? In one sense, Norm's comments made perfect sense (again, see the Mango outfit), but in all other senses, the hell is he talking about? What does seeming gay have to do with being funny? Still, because he's Norm Macdonald, who's almost always hilarious, and not Chris Kattan, who's rarely if ever funny, Norm wins. Then again, I haven't seen Delgo in awhile...
Chevy Chase vs. Bill Murray

Chevy Chase had left the show to pursue a movie career, and when he returned to host an episode, his jilted castmates asked Murray to confront him backstage. As legend has it, insults were thrown (“Medium talent!” being Murray’s rumoured slight of choice) and so were fists.
“It was really a Hollywood fight, a ‘Don’t touch my face!’ kind of thing,” recalls Murray with a smile. “Chevy is a big man, I’m not a small guy, and we were separated by my brother Brian [Doyle-Murray], who comes up to my chest. So it was kind of a non-event. It was just the significance of it. It was an Oedipal thing, a rupture. Because we all felt mad he had left us, and somehow I was the anointed avenging angel, who had to speak for everyone. But Chevy and I are friends now. It’s all fine.” (Via)
Winner: They're allegedly friends now (or at least friendly), but I'm not going to declare a winner until Murray makes a guest appearance on Community as Jeff's dad. Is it weird that I want to see that more than Annie and Britta go full CJ and Abby? Didn't think so.
Victoria Jackson vs. Everyone

In the 2002 book Live From New York, an oral history of the show, castmate Jan Hooks sniped: "I just have a particular repulsion to grown women who talk like little girls. It's like: 'You're a grown woman! Use your lower register!'" (Victoria, by the way, claims her weird voice is the result of a medical defect: a "congenital palatal insufficiency.")
"Look, I'm not qualified for this," Victoria recalls thinking. "Maybe this is my mission field. I'm supposed to tell my cast members about Jesus!"
But Hartman didn't want to talk about the Son of God. And Lovitz asked how Jesus, "a grown man," could have fit in his mother's womb to be born again. When Victoria left audiocassette box sets of the Bible in each castmate's mail slot for Christmas, they were angrily returned.
Writer and performer Al Franken, now a Democratic U.S. senator for Minnesota, cornered her once, Victoria says. He said he was "offended" by her "ditzy" act. "Maybe I'm overcompensating," she retorted, "because everybody here is dying and going to hell, and I'm supposed to tell them about Jesus."
Franken went white, she says. "He never talked to me again." (Via)
Winner: Everyone. She nearly ruins the otherwise-perfect UHF.
Al Franken vs. NBC

Another Franken sketch, "A Limo for the Lamo", had a dramatic effect on SNL. Aired in 1980, it was a blistering on-air attack on NBC President Fred Silverman, with Franken calling Silverman "a total unequivocal failure" while holding up a graph showing the network's prime time ratings plummeting. Silverman didn't laugh at all, and reportedly started treating Michaels like crap, leading to Michaels' departure from SNL at the season's end — along with the entire cast. (Via)
Winner: While at NBC, Silverman had a hand in developing Hill Street Blues, The David Letterman Show, Diff'rent Strokes, The Facts of Life, Cheers, and later in life, through his own production company, Matlock, Jake and the Fatman, and Diagnosis: Murder. Franken became a United States senator. The winner, obviously, is Jake and the Fatman, I mean, Silverman.
Nora Dunn vs. Andrew Dice Clay

The Diceman (whose real name is Andrew Silverstein) is hardly surprised by such reactions anymore. His humor has drawn complaints from women, gays and other groups that have been its targets, and last year Clay was banned for life from MTV for ignoring a pledge to forgo profanity. Some of the offended have retaliated; a West Hollywood billboard with his picture was recently defaced by a group calling itself Activists Against Sexist Pigs. And two weeks ago both Saturday Night Live cast member Nora Dunn and Irish singer Sinéad O'Connor both refused to appear with him when he was SNL's guest host. The pair's protest, however, stirred up so much publicity that SNL got a huge ratings boost, and the controversial comic wound up with his biggest audience yet. (Via)
Winner: No one? Dunn has appeared in a number of impressive movies and TV shows — Pineapple Express, It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Zoolander, Futurama, Pushing Daisies — but usually in tiny roles, if not characters that go by "British Designer" instead of an actual name. The Diceman continues to be a farting nicotine stain on the art form known as stand-up comedy, though he will be in Woody Allen's next movie, alongside Cate Blanchett, Louis C.K., and Alec Baldwin. But if I had to name a winner, I'd go with Dunn, simply because Andrew Dice Clay is awful, you bunch of f*cking smelly, d*ck-loving baboons. OH.
Eddie Murphy vs. David Spade (and SNL in general)

"They were shitty to me on Saturday Night Live a couple of times after I'd left the show," he says. "They said some shitty things. There was that David Spade sketch [when Spade showed a picture of Murphy around the time of Vampire In Brooklyn and said, 'Look, children, a falling star']. I made a stink about it, it became part of the folklore. What really irritated me about it at the time was that it was a career shot.. I felt shitty about it for years, but now, I don't have none of that." (Via)
Winner: This scene is a metaphor for both of their careers.
Still, the winner is Murphy. Norbit > Grown Ups.
John Belushi vs. Female Writers

Jane Curtin appeared on The Oprah Winfrey Show on Tuesday as part of a panel on women in comedy, sitting alongside Tina Fey and Chevy Chase, among others. Known for her Coneheads sketches and Weekend Update anchoring, Curtin said that the women writers on the show were often unable to contribute their work thanks to sabotage by the show's men. Especially breakout star John Belushi.
"Their battles were constant. They were working against John, who said women are just fundamentally not funny," Curtin said. "So you'd go to a table read, and if a woman writer had written a piece for John, he would not read it in his full voice. He felt as though it was his duty to sabotage pieces written by women." (Via)
Winner: Tina Fey.
Tracy Morgan vs. Chris Kattan and Cheri Oteri

In his upcoming book, I Am the New Black, [Tracy Morgan] mentions who treated him like sh*t, namely then stars Chris Kattan and Cheri Oteri. Morgan writes, "All I have to say about that is, where's Chris Kattan now? Where's Cheri Oteri now? That bitch can't even get arrested."
But the grudge apparently runs even deeper, because when Morgan sat down to record the audio version of that passage, he started ad-libbing, expanding on his earlier points: Morgan says he still counts Will Ferrell, Molly Shannon and Colin Quinn as friends, but as for Oteri and Kattan: "F*ck 'em." (Via)
Winner: Tina Fey, because otherwise, Tracy Morgan would be just as irrelevant as Kattan and Oteri.
Fear vs. Lorne Michaels

This one's a bit long, but it involves punk rock and pumpkins, so it's totally worth it:
N: When Fear played on Saturday Night Live, did you go down and check it out in New York with Rollins and the gang?
Ian MacKaye [frontman of Fugazi and Minor Threat]: Rollins was not there. I’ll tell you the story if you’d like to hear the story about that. At eight in the morning, some point in October, I got a call. I was driving a newspaper truck for the Washington Post at the time, so eight in the morning was brutal. It was (Dick Ebersol)’s office, (Dick Ebersol) being the producer of Saturday Night Live, and I get this woman, “(Dick Ebersol)’s office, please hold.” I was completely delirious. (Dick Ebersol) gets on the phone, “Hi, Ian, it’s (Dick Ebersol) of Saturday Night Live, I’m calling you because I got your number from John Belushi. He says that you might be able to get some dancers up here ‘cause we want to have Fear on the show.” I was completely baffled by this. “Pardon me?” “Hold on a second.” John Belushi gets on the phone and he says, “This is John Belushi. I’m a big fan of Fear’s. I made a deal with Saturday Night Live that I would make a cameo appearance on the show if they’d let Fear play. I got your number from Penelope Spheeris, who did Decline of Western Civilization and she said that you guys, Washington DC punk rock kids, know how to dance. I want to get you guys to come up to the show.” It was worked out that we could all arrive at the Rockefeller Center where Saturday Night Live was being filmed. The password to get in was “Ian MacKaye.” So we went to the show. During the dress rehearsal, a camera got knocked over. We were dancing and they were very angry with us and said that they were going to not let us do it then Belushi really put his foot down and insisted on it. So, during the actual set itself, they let us come out again. If you watch the show – have you seen it?
N: Yes I have.
IM: If you watch it – during the show – before they go to commercial, they always go to this jack-o-lantern. This carved pumpkin. If you watched it during the song, you’ll see one of our guys, Bill MacKenzie, coming out holding the pumpkin above his head because he’s just getting ready to smash it. And that’s when they cut it off. They kicked us out and locked us out for two hours. We were locked in a room because they were so angry with us about the behavior. I didn’t think it was that big of deal.
N: They locked you in a room?
IM: Yeah, we were locked in a room. They said they were going to sue us and have us arrested for damages. There was so much hype about that. The New York Post reported half a million dollars worth of damages. It was nothing. It was a plastic clip that got broken. It was a very interesting experience and I realized how completely unnatural it is for a band to be on a TV show, particularly a punk band, that kind of has a momentum to suddenly be expected to immediately jump into a song in that type of setting. It was very weird. Largely unpleasant. Made me realize that’s not something I’m interested in doing. (Via)
Here's some footage:
Winner: Whoever uploaded that (fittingly grainy) video, to let future generations witness such an amazing moment in TV history.
Lorne Michaels vs. Steven Seagal

According to the book, Live From New York: The Uncensored History of Saturday Night Live, Steven Seagal was named the worst host ever to appear on the show (a fact that Lorne Michaels mentioned when Nicolas Cage hosted in season 18) due to his bad sketch ideas and inability to work with the cast and crew. David Spade had stated that it was the first time in a long time that Lorne Michaels wanted to do a hostless episode (which hadn't been done since the first episode of season 10). (Via)
Winner: Well, Seagal hosted in 1991 (with Michael Bolton as the musical guest!), which means his finest work was still ahead of him: Under Siege, On Deadly Ground, Under Siege 2: Dark Territory, Executive Decision, Songs from the Crystal Cave, Mojo Cave...so, really, it was Seagal who got the last laugh, followed by an intricate-looking kick move on Lorne that somehow ripped his urethral sphincter out.



I’m glad to hear that Norm hates the things I hate.
When it comes to SNL feuds I always go with the one who managed not to get cast in Southland Tales. Always a good rule of thumb.
…because otherwise, Tracy Morgan would be just as irrelevant as Kattan and Oteri.
How dare you, Josh! Have you even SEEN his outtakes from “Totally Awesome”?
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Great list otherwise!
Tracy Morgan is one funny motherfucker. Every time I see him on a talk show (Letterman, Leno, whatever) he makes me laugh so hard I cry. He’s not a great actor, granted. But there are plenty of great comics who can’t make the transition to great actor.
Bill vs. Chevy is my favorite. There is just so much potential for amazing physical comedy there.
Also, I knew a guy who worked on SNL when Seagal hosted, and he claimed that Seagal had a prostitute in his dressing room. I believe it.
“Held”. I think you mean “held” a prostitute in his dressing room.
@ILPHPH- well done.
Right next to the box of ponytails.
Lets not forget the feud between SNL and its audience. Thats been going on since ’95, at least.
But whatever, I dont even watch this fucking show anymore. Tim Meadows FTW
I think Jihad is a better description.
The Eddie Murphy-David Spade feud is my favorite, because that joke was hilarious and true. If Eddie had been a man about it and hosted the show, he could have thrown it back. But he was too busy singing with Michael Jackson.
Doesn’t that kind of refute the joke though? Eddie’s doing music videos with the biggest star in the world.
I know he’s done some total crap in his career, but really, where is David Spade’s Raw? Beverly Hills Cop? Trading Places?
At least Eddie had the balls to try some stuff rather than repeatedly being Chris Farley’s less retarded straight man (which doesn’t seem to work anymore).
I totally agree. Just more of a comment on how Eddie lost his edge trying to be the world’s biggest star. If he’d had a better sense of humor about himself, maybe his movies wouldn’t have been so awful after Boomerang.
I know it was an ensemble movie, but Bowfinger was pretty good.
I always hoped that Bowfinger was his comeback. And I know they tried so hard with Life. But then Showtime came out.
Life was just too damned long(there’s a joke in there somewhere). It felt like they spent 2 hours just on the set up and then threw in some really downer moments.
He did an interview for Rolling Stone last year. It explains what he’s been thinking and what his current plans are. You might find it encouraging
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Has he done anything successful since Boomerang (if that) that didn’t involve him voicing Donkey?
I guess I really am the only person in the world that enjoyed Pluto Nash. Of course I’ve never seen it sober…
Diceman is always a winner
Jane, you ignorant slut
Chris Kattan’s career literally went to The Middle.
There was a time between Ghostbusters and Groundhog Day came out that I thought Bill Murray was a bitter old curmudgeon and Chevy Chase was still a god after doing Fletch, Vacation and Spies Like Us.
Now, Murray seems to be really enjoying his “life as performance art” thing (btw, I hate that phrase), and Chevy seems like such a sanctimonious prick. Every time I see him on Community, you can almost see him thinking “Don’t you know who I am, I’ll tell you what’s funny”
I guess I don’t really have a point, just an observation.
I kind of wish that Bill Murry and Tina Fey would get into a feud just to see The Internet’s reaction. I’m guessing there would be mass suicides.
The biggest mystery is how Victoria Jackson ever got cast in the first place. The only thing I remember about her is her super-wierd dance number about how she loved a cop where she stood on her head and wrote something on her leg in lipstick. Chick was weird.
I remember Jackson saying in an interview that she grew up without TV. I though that was a major impediment to SNL success. She did a mean Rosanne Barr though. Dead on.
Good god, I remember that dance number and it was the most retarded fucking thing that ever happened on Weekend Update. I was hoping that while Jackson was doing her headstand, Kevin Nealon dropkicks her off the desk.
I may be alone in this, but I remember when David Spade used to be really funny.
Joe Dirt and The Emperor’s New Groove are classics.
Anybody who doesn’t like Tommy Boy is a liar.
Pretty remarkable that he’s had an uninterrupted 15 year run in network prime time on three separate shows that have gone pretty much unwatched by human eyes. Outside of our solar system he may some day be hailed as a god.
I always enjoyed Spade’s Weekend Update.
Better than Dennis Miller, if nothing else. And I think he made a good impression on Just Shoot Me.
Yeah his network TV success is really interesting, that’s a great point. Also, didn’t he date Heather Locklear for a really long time?
Yes, he did date Heather Locklear. No, I don’t know where he hid her family.
He has made such a career playing the exact same guy in a whole bunch of filler TV shows. Shows that have been on for years, are usually before or after really popular shows, but no one knows a damn thing about the show in question.
Chevy Chase also said some pretty shitty things about Chris Farley in Live from New York. Biggest a-hole castmembers on that show seem to have been Chevy and Janine Garofalo.
I wanted Live from New York to be juicier.
Fear/LM FTW. THat video was insane. Way to find a gem!
Fear vs. Lorne Michaels? Shouldn’t that be Dick Ebersol?
Correct.
I need to listen to Norm MacDonald on WTF again. He was pretty adamant about not being paired with a woman anchor for Weekend Update and I recall he got some shit basically saying women aren’t funny.
Dennis Miller, who last I heard was a few years ago still telling Saddam jokes from the days of the Herbert Walker Bush administration, did say that he loved that when writers would pitch ideas Norm would be direct in saying “that’s shit.” I have to appreciate that honesty when you’re collaborating to have someone who is willing to call someone’s idea stupid and move on.
Norm vs NBC was great too
His monologue from the episode he hosted was great.
Goddammit can you please kill the auto audio ads? everytime i change the slide i gotta hear the same asshole say the same thing.
I hate to think of these guys fussing and fighting, but it is nice to remember the days when SNL had balls.
norm & kattan, as told by jim breuer. the best.
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“He says that you might be able to get some dancers up here” Dancers? If they’re dancers I’m Fred Astaire, although the same choreography was used by those bald vampires in the sewer scenes of Blade 2.
Counterpoint to the Nora Dunn > Andrew Dice Clay assertion:
Quote one Nora Dunn skit/routine/saying/cliche/part/etc.
Say one nursery rhyme without breaking into a Diceman routine.
/Drops mike. Walks cockily off stage.
Well… I can do the second part…
Then again, she’s not stuck doing the same character for 30 years.
At some point, “Dice” had to start convincing himself to live one more day.
Steven Seagal to Rob Schneider:
Seagal told him, “I just read the greatest script ever.”
“Who wrote it?”, Schneider asked.
Seagal paused, looked Schneider dead in the eye and said, “Me.”
I remember hearing Schneider tell that story on Stern. My brother and I were in fucking tears, we’ve never laughed so hard!
Executive Decision… why did you have to bring that up
I once was told that I look like Kattan by a female that I liked. Worst day of my existence.
How are you still alive? I would have killed myself after that.
Does Bill Murray know what Oedipal means?
I’m not in his head but he’s probably not using it in the context of the so-called “Oedipal complex” but rather Oedipal meaning of Oedipus. In context I’d guess he’s saying something like a “kill your father” thing or maybe he just means a really dramatic, violent moment, but it’s easily possible he just doesn’t know what he’s saying.
What was that about Nic Cage? When discussing Segal it said that Lorne brought up Segal was the worst host ever when talking about Cage in Season 18… I can’t find anything about that episode.. did he bring up Segal because Nic was badly behaved too? I MUST KNOW
answer-in Cage’s monologue he kept name dropping every hot actress that he’s made out with, etc in a movie making him come off as a dick. Lorne tried to humble him by asking how would he like someone to say the same shit about Sofia Coppola. “HEY MAN THATS MY LITTLE COUSIN THERE!!” then he was humbled and asked if he was the worst-”No, that’d be Seagall.” You’re welcome, sir.
The Diceman is the toughest Jew around…right after the Hebrew Hammer. Just sayin.
Also, since I’m 80% certain that Bill Murray is my biological father (not based on looks, but awesomeness), I am quite offended that you cannot see that he is the obvious winner here…or in every situation really. Bill Murrary vs. X…Bill always wins. It’s basic science, you guys.
That is not a picture of FEAR, its The Members ya jerks. Its like putting up a picture of Charles Rocket instead of Belushi
There’s more to the Norm vs. Kattan thing. Kattan was also notorious for wedging his way into sketches, taking credit and just blatantly stealing sketches. So for this article to just talk about the whether or not Kattan is gay is very misleading and makes Norm sound like a homophobic which is not true about him.
Tina Fey over John Belushi is 100% garbage! Belushi has more talent drunk than Fey has being 100% sober.
You forgot to mention Seth MacFarlane’s feud with Macdonald. McDonald was originally the voice of death on Family Guy; that is, the warmly sarcastic grim reaper character that is oft- featured, though now with the voice of Adam Corrolla. Apparently, Macdonald would rarely show up on time for recording sessions, if at all. MacFarlane noted in an interview that he learned a valuable lesson after firing Macdonald, “That it might be a good idea to feature people who actually want to be on the show.”
As about as gracious a sh**-talking as you’re going to get, yet Macdonald spent the next several months trying to tell evevyone that Family Guy was garbage.
Kattan is right, he’s an asshole.
There’s some classic feuds on here. I always suspected Kattan was that guy who would feud with people.
I’m interested to know which of the castmates of the past 6 or 7 years have had some major feuds. While I love Jason Sedeukis and Kristen Wiig, both of them seem like the type that would totally feud with other cast members. And they’d probably be right, too.