9. Lee Toric — Donal Logue is the wild card going into the season finale, and I’m not sure exactly what he’s planning. However, I actually wouldn’t be surprised to see him take out Tara, which may be the reason why the living will and Wendy were introduced (plus the huge f**king arsenal on Logue’s bed), which might also suggest a larger role for Wendy next season. Honestly, I’d rather have Tara. Either way, it’s good to see Logue; I only wish he had a bigger story to take him deep into next season. Also, if he doesn’t kill Tara, I predict Sutter will find a way for Toric to take out Unser (who, as you recall, is looking into Toric).
10. Clay Makes a Play — Honest to God, this is my favorite development of the entire season. Yes, it’s frustrating that Clay keeps escaping death, BUT I do like where this is going. To recap: Clay was despondent over losing his patch (and that was a nicely acted little scene, where Clay was weeping), but after the deal with Galen fell through with SAMCRO, Clay decided to make the best of a bad situation and, basically, start his own gun-running side business. “No politics, just money.” He invites Tig to be his right hand man (possibly saving Tig from death next week), and sets up a getaway plan with Galen to get to Belfast for a few months and avoid the ire of Jax.
The way I see this working out, essentially, is that Clay forms his own club, and splits SAMCRO apart. He takes Tig. He probably also takes Bobby and Juice, and now that Jax is in the gun-running business with Nero, next season the two clubs compete over turf and, hopefully, each recruits new members because the show is running out of major characters. For this to happen, Clay and Tig will need to survive the finale, as will Nero.
Stuck in the middle of this all will be Gemma, and I honestly cannot figure out if she’s leaning toward going to Belfast with Clay or staying behind with Nero. It should make for an interesting finale. I can honestly say I’m stoked to see how it turns out, although I predict it will end with a lot of unresolved story lines, as it did at the end of season two (with the kidnapping of Abel).
Or maybe it will end as Conan predicts.
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This was a satisfying episode. But thats not saying much, I have had a desire to leave the show but after so much invested in 5 season of man hours I am looking for a return in the final 2 seasons…I think.
Wait, we didn’t learn 10 things about last week’s SAMCRO! Anyway, I either missed it or there wasn’t one, and I wanted to point out that I loved that Nero’s old gangster buddy that he shot was Acaveda’s buddy from The Shield. And by “buddy”, I mean rapist.
NEro is fuckin awesome
i dont know where its going, but I hope they keep Nero alive and around. Jimmy Smits is great in this role as he was on Dexter. kudos to Sutter.
Fuckin’ Bobby.
This whole “Nero was a morally good person and switched a light to become bad” has probably been the most frustrating aspect of the season. How convenient for the plot.
I guess I’m just not a fan of sloppy Deus Ex Machinas.
Nostril flaring aside… I think it was a satisfying episode. Because I love Ron Perlman, I could respect Bobby’s choice to keep Clay alive, and just out of Samcro. Clay needed a good beatdown and Jax delivered. I agree that Gemma’s snack line was a winner, and love the chemistry between her and Nero. Can’t wait to see the finale and decide just how awesome this season was overall!
The “meeting Mr. Mayhem” thing is pretty lame. And again what the fuck Bobby, I love Ron Perlman but Clay needs to go already.
“Does Romeo even remember that he’s CIA? They are the worst federal agents EVER. What are they investigating? Weren’t they set up to take down the I.R.A.? And if so, why agree to a deal with the Chinese that separates them from the I.R.A.? Or does the CIA just want guns? Why? Isn’t that part of what our monstrous defense budget is devoted to? Making weapons?”
Actually, I was under the impression that they were CIA assets, not agents themselves. They were already drug lords fighting other cartels. The CIA just turns a blind eye and helps them logistically because the Agency figures their goals were similar.
Basically, the CIA figured they need to back someone in that fight and the Galindo Cartel lined up best with them.
So, Romeo still has to run his cartel as usual, but can pull the CIA card when he runs into big trouble.
I thought so too, but now that i think about it, I’m pretty sure I remember them having badges or something at one point.
@JerBear50 They definitely have badges, Romeo and Acevada (I am always going to call him that, I don’t care what his name is on this show.) pull them out all the time.
I think Jax will kill Pope and have Pope’s assistant tell everyone it was Galindo. Now the bounty hunters go after Galindo. Two birds one stone.
So, Navarro’s appearance still makes no sense to me. You could have gotten some random throw away guy to play that role. Also, why on earth did they make him look like he should have been scrubbing laundry on a stone on the bank of a river or living in a mud hut or something. It was as if they wanted you to think he was some kind of oracle or something. He could have parted his shirt revealing Kuato “Neeeero, oooopen your mind…”
Can I mix another “something” in there?? I got “something” happy in the post. Sorry about that, but you get the gist!
Perhaps this is setting Nero up to be an antagonist in S6 and Mr. Eyeliner will be playing a bigger role then (like Rollins, but not as good of course)?
Google Dave Navarro SOA and see how many results you get from mid October for articles written.
Navarro’s appearance=Marketing
If the club didn’t vote on whether to kill Clay, Jax would’ve done it behind the club’s back, so Bobby brought it to a vote. They all voted to kill him, except Bobby, which will only lead to Jax killing him behind the club’s back. How does that make any sense whatsoever?
Bobby made a deal with Clay to save Clay’s life. Confess to the club and I will vote against killing you.
He laid himself on the line to save Clay’s life and Jax’s soul…duh duh duhhhhhhh
I can’t tell if you’re making dramatic music or calling me stupid. Either way, I get it.
for the record, dramatic music
I know this is way off topic here, but whatever happened with Ethan Zobelle? Jax killed Henry Rollins and Agent Stahl killed his daughter, but Ethan Zobelle just got on a plane and went to Hungary because Jax got sidetracked with Abel getting kidnapped. Did Sutter just forget all about this storyline?
I’d like to see him come back…perhaps next season.
So what are the odds that Jax has Juice kill Pope, using Clay’s gun to make it look like Clay did it? They did have a phone conversation, the contents of which went unrevealed, and Juice was eying the gun even before Clay gave it to him. That would get rid of Pope (and open the way for Logue to be next season’s major villain) and put the heat on Clay.
Interesting predictions!
How about: Tig kills Clay, finds Venus Van Dam, and together they show up at the airstrip in Mendocino to claim Clay’s and Gemma’s spot on the plane to Belfast.
so much going on, and with Sutter, you never really know wtf he’s thinking…hell sometimes i wonder if he’s doing this on the fly like the last few seasons of Lost….
I was thinking the same. He’s probably lurking these comments for ideas.
Who do you think Pope is going to give over to the Sons in return for Tigs, the previews hinted it at that, gotta be the big black guy Jax was talking to.
I’d also add, I still think Jax is playing Pope somehow….
If he’s not, then the whole Pope storyline is bullshit. He put the hit out on Jax’s best friend AAAAND fucked up the IRA/Galindo deal.
Charlie Hunnam plays Jax.
@ Taco
barely
@ Paul
At least he’s stopped with the John Wayne/West Side Story wide-stepped tough guy walk he used to do every time there was a fight or confrontation.
Pope is still alive (pre-season finale) because Pope is a representation of Jax’s evil side: the side that is doesn’t care about Opie and the other SAMCRO members and only is looking out to build up his empire. Once Jax kills Pope, that means Jax has worked out his inner turmoil, which might take next season to fully work out.
I really like your opinion on what will happen next season, that seems like an awesome idea! Would love to see that. Where side would my main man Happy take?!?!
I think Unser is toast this finale, lots of emotional scenes with him to make us care again, and now he will be burned from the show.
Im pulling for Unser making it through the series finale.
I love Wayne!
–i noticed we didnt see Eli in this episode. so hopefully he comes into play to finish clay before he goes to ireland.
–i think for some reason Tig will be going with Clay to Ireland and not gemma.
–i have a strange feeling that bobby will be the one to die this season and not clay or tig. bobby bringing clay to the table couldve ruined everything, if clay hadnt been brought to the table, he wouldve still be in the mc, then the cartel wouldnt have to ambush the irish.
–jax is going to have pope’s right hand man kill him. death by proxy right?
–pope told the cartel about clay not being in the mc anymore. why??? is pope under the finger of the feds as well
and lastly
–PLEASE KILL JUICE ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is he gonna tear up every episode??
I too feel that Eli will ultimately be the one to take out Clay. I couldn’t quite figure out why Pope told the Cartel about Clay either… that’s why… I can’t wait until the season finale. I’m hoping it’s like season 3 where all the season’s confusion wraps up and you can relax and say “ahhhh, there are my boys!”
When Jax was talking to Pope’s right hand man about being patient, was he setting up the killing of Pope, so he could take over ? Unser told Eli that Clay was behind the Home Invasions. Why didn’t he kill Clay ? I’m still pulling for Jax to shoot Pope next week instead of Tig and Eli killing Clay. And I’ll like to see Abel flair his nostrils just once.
Unser and Roosevelt discussed the “last piece of the puzzle”… Jax told Juice to “listen carefully” and Jax asked Gemma to “sit down” … but we, the audience, were not privy to the juicy bits. Here’s hoping we get some answers next Tuesday!
I am holding my breath. So how weaker season get saved by big WTF moment in the finale.
When Nero mentioned the Byz Lats last night, I was fully expecting Vic Mackey to appear in the background somewhere.
makes sense. been a lot of Shield actors cross-over to this show
And Oz.
More Deadwood please!
That last scene with Wendy was total horsemularkey.1. It was very contrived. “I’ll just pump her full of horse and everyone will see her for the junkie she is!” 2. Heroin is not an intramuscular drug. 3. Holy shit, did you see the gauge of that syringe??? That thing would hold close to an ounce of heroin! I just thought it was a crap ending to a pretty stellar episode.
You would think he’d inject her in a more sensible place. But i guess the theory is that she’s a junkie and has no credibility.
holy crap who fucking cares if he injected her in the medically correct place or not. you friggin’ guys…
No matter how it got it’ll stay in but that dose would be lethal
I would have jut kept the syringe. That thing was silly looking… for him to just leave it behind was dumb IMO
Giving that dosage and leaving the syringe may make sense if he wanted her to overdose and either die or be hospitalized (which would document the overdose), but Sutter couldn’t bother to have Jax add additional incriminating shit around the apartment. No paraphenelia or other signs of use.
I agree that it was contrived horse malarkey but not for the reasons you list. Had the episode ended one minute before it would have been just about right. I actually thought that by bringing Tig along, that Jax was going inside and actually having Pope’s guys get Tig. Strangely, as much as that would have disappointed me in that Jax gave into Pope and didn’t back Tig, I was far more disgusted with what Jax actually did. For the first time ever, Wendy was in the right and everyone else was in the wrong. I think she could have been persuaded without being pumped full of heroin or meth or whateverthefuck.
Ha! Friends were discussing on what he could have possibly injected her with as he didn’t do it intravenously… it’s just tv show… not a documentary! Give room for a little creative interpretation!
This episode reminded me of two things. One, Ron Perlman is a great actor; you could see that despite the sorrow of losing the club that a weight had been lifted from him. Two, Ron Perlman has gigantic fucking hands.
Big hands, but have you ever noticed he has to arch up to look through a door’s peephole? Peepholes are pretty much standard heights. I’m only 6′ and most peepholes hit me about the nose. I’m guessing he’s about 5’7 regardless of IMDB listing him at 6’1.
Actors are notoriously short.
His right hand is especially huge.
And really huge arms… quite sexy!
Another excellent episode, another shitty recap way overthinking a pulpy drama that has always been about visceral thrills and TWISTS over logic. I might just need to stick with the AV Club’s recaps, they at least gave this one the “A” it deserved.
Eh. I read both. If one recap is glowing, the other is seething with vile hatred. I figure it keeps me balanced.
I’ve skipped the last two episodes, reading these recaps instead. I’m back for Donal Logue.
Yup. Hope he has a huge role in the season finale.
Really excited to see what he brings to the table.
Didn’t pick up on Jax’s little conversation with Pope’s second-in-command did you Dustin? I’m guessing the grave they throw Tig in will be a little bit bigger. That’s if Tig gets thrown to the wolves this finale. I could just as easily see Sutter putting Tig back with Clay, and then have a secondary storyline next season as Pope seeks to kill Tig, and Clay working to draw the heat off Tig (possibly onto the club?).
Also, I’ve never truly known just how much Ron Perlman could probably murder everyone on this comment board until that final scene last night.
Yeah that convo with Pope’s VP or whatever he is stuck with me. It’s obvious Jax is running some scheme similar to season 3 that will be revealed in the finale and Tig will be spared.
Or I’m just hoping so because this show can’t afford to lose Tig and Opie in one season
What… you expected him to cry?!
I’m talking about his biceps being bigger than happys head.
I find it pretty funny that those of us that received shirts seemed to all get them right as Clay was losing his patch.
There’s something almost poetic about that.
Very nice observation! Screw you Morrow!
I thought it was funny that as Clay was losing his tattoos, Dave Navarro was on a completely different show being a snob about tattoos.
I want a freakin’ shirt!! lol
No, if Kurt Sutter wrote Breaking Bad, Walter White would’ve risen to the top of the meth distribution chain and killed Jesse by the end of the season 1, but still spend five seasons trying to buy the car wash.
Just got that prez badge. Im-a bro walk like a mofo
Got my shirt! Thx!
You are patched up now
I AM GOING TO YELL NOW, THAT MEANS ACTING, LET’S NOSTRIL FLARE AND BRO WALK, BRO
It’s hilarious how incapable Hunnam is of hiding his accent anytime he has to raise his voice
Just when I think I’m done, Sutter PULLS me back in.
agreed! I am a huge fan, but almost gave up…
I got my Sons of Uproxx shirt in the mail! Thanks guys! Please dont strip me of my…uh. shirt. Unless you’re dressed like Walter Goggins, then strip away.
Mine came on Saturday. Very nice. Thanks
Jealous!
I think the Galindo Cartel is similar to those undercover cops/agents who get in so deep that they forget exactly what their purpose is. That said, there’s no reason and no excuse for the danger they put themselves and SAMCRO in by charging into the gun deal with the Irish. Guys with guns who hate you? Yeah, let’s charge into that!
It was all so that Wendy would be kidnapped and Clay could set his own deal with the Irish.
The Galindo are getting money from the CIA essentially to take out the other major cartel doesnt matter where the guns come from
Yeah, most excited for the Tig/Pope line. Methinks Jax is just using Pope while he can, rather than actually warming up to him. Remember when they made up with the Russians in S4? Yeah that didn’t last long.
The bounty for Pope’s killer is interesting. There’s some things that are easy to spot:
“You’re a patient man”
Read:
Yeah we need Pope’s operation, so if Pope were no longer around we could get a deal going.
“Proxy your revenge”
read:
If I make it look like the Irish and Clay kill you I kill two birds with one stone.
Sutter’s not Vince Gillian or David Simon, but he’s not so bad to where he can’t spot this.
Reading this post and the comments to this post are my favorite WG item of the week. SOA is a show about a motorcycle gang that cries and hugs and kisses each other on the cheek fairly regularly and yet everyone gets bent out of shape that the plot isn’t tighter than a nuns asshole. It’s a bro show and a pretty good one at that. But people are analyzing it the way Conan the Barbarian fans analyze any attempted remake.
yea.
I think tig has to kill pope. Then flee with clay? The Toric character is terrific. Because we can’t see his end game.
All that work for proof and Clay ruins it by confessing.
I hope Clay’s new crew is called “Clayz Krew” in an effort to entice some young blood to join.
Hope they get better tattoos than new ones he just got.
The Two-Morrows, he’ll bring in a relative or something to help him out starting it up…long lost bro or something
Who thinks Jax’s kids even live long enough to read his journal?
I feel like Jax cant really read or write and he is just making 4 year old’s drawings in the book and thinking those things to himself. Abel could probably read it now.
Ha!
After the tremendous Boardwalk Empire on Sunday Sons looked… spotty when you compare tying storylines together.
comparing apples and oranges
No matter how many times they say it out loud, “visiting Mr. Mayhem” still sounds retarded.
That’s how I tell my friends I’m taking a dump now.
I gotta use that from now on SHough610
I said it before a few weeks ago when he said it about Frankie Diamonds, and it still holds true. It sounds like something that a group of 12 year old boys would say if they had some sort of tree fort.
I always think “Tommy Lee”?
That’s who should make the next cameo appearance.
I thought it meant visiting Dean Winters as the Allstate guy.
It’s obviously dumb, but I’m pretty sure they use that term in case the table is being bugged, so they never come out and say they’re going to murder someone. I’m sure they could think of a better catchphrase if they thought about it for a couple of seconds.
I didn’t even see Dave Navarro. That’s how brain dead this show has made me become this season.
Also, I hope for some random Sutter-Reason, Zobell comes back in the finale
Zobell directed a few of this season”s episodes.
I saw him and said “hey, there’s the singer for Soundgarden.” *fartnoise*
He’s better on Ink Master.
Both of which were on last night.
Dave Navarro was retreating all the girls who said he looked like shit on SOA and they had to watch Ink Master to see him “pretty” again. Man, what guyliner does to some chicks, I swear.
Season finale predictions.
Tara finds out what Jax did to Wendy, and takes the kids to Oregon or wherever. Finally getting rid of her and the kids.
Jax has been secretly making moves with Popes right hand man against Pope the whole season, and kills him. This way, the drugs and charming heights goes through with Popes 2nd in command taking over. Everyone wins. Tigg is spared but kicked out of SAMCRO and joins up with Clay.
Jax decides the go between to kill Clay will be the Sheriff. Juice will use chekhov’s gun to kill the sheriff and save clay. Juice, Tigg and Clay will run guns.
With the sheriff dead Unser is back in charge of Charming PD.
Nope, killing Pope means his army of assassins seeking the five million bounty. If Pope dies it happens in such a way that the blame is shifted to benefit SAMCRO.
Forgot about the bounty! Nice
I forgot about the bounty too. Hmmm. Maybe thats how he offs Tigg. Tigg kills pope, Jax kills Tigg. Jax and the club repay their debts with bounty money!
I just can’t picture Jax killing Tigg – not while he’s still a member, not after he couldn’t kill Clay despite numerous opportunities.
I see a few options. 1) They trick someone into killing Pope (Irish probably hate blacks more than Mexicans, maybe Donal?) 2) Someone kills Pope and sacrifices himself (Tigg, Unser?) 3) Jax gets the 2nd in command to cancel the assassin insurance, the Sons kill Pope and ally with Pope’s #2
Dave Navarro as “Little Vato”. Another incident of superfluous and stupid stunt casting.
The facial scar gave him street cred.
also he’s like 45 years old. How long are you ‘Little’ Vato?
“How long are you ‘Little’ Vato?”
As long as there’s a Big Vato.
And Nero did say they started a crew 25 years ago, but yea, that dude wouldn’t scare anyone.
LOL @ Stonecutter
Nice to see they decided to scuttle everything the season worked up to before the finale this time around. Should’ve just shot Clay a long time ago.
This still holds true!
Jax’s voice overs are stupid because the introspective, philosophical, Shakespearean hero that the voice over portends does not jibe with the increasingly sociopathic and unstable biker that shows up for the rest of the episode.
But it does jibe with the fact that he is continually lying to himself. A point Nero brings up (about himself/Jax )when he offers Jax the money.
I thought it was a “thing”… voice overs to start the episode and music to end them?