That knowledge apparently hurt Debra more than anything that Dexter has ever done, including KILLING ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE. Why? Because, as Debra finally confessed — after it had not mentioned once through the first seven episodes of the season — that she was in love with Dexter, as in she wants to f**k Dexter and make gloriously dysfunctional serial killer babies with him.
Dexter, folks, is off the rails again.
I will concede, however, that the Big Bad this season (played by Ray Stevenson), had not been that compelling until the most recent episode, when the character revealed that he wanted revenge against Dexter because Dexter killed Victor, who wasn’t just the Big Bad’s bodyguard, he was his lover. On the surface, it sounds like another staid Dexter plot turn, but Ray Stevenson actually pulled it off brilliantly with one of the better acted scenes from the series.
Unfortunately, it still doesn’t excuse how dumb the show has gotten, nor the fact that, while every other major drama is killing off major characters left and right, Dexter’s disposable, useless characters — like Angel, LaGuerta, Masuka, and Joey — are still inexplicably hanging around. Also, as bad as this season has gotten, with four more episodes remaining, it still has plenty of time to somehow stoop lower.
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Yeah this season started out strong but now strongly blows. It will be redeemed for me if Dexter kills that bitch Laguerta.
I’m hoping she forces him into a corner and he straight up slaughters the shit out of her. It’s a looooooong time coming.
She is the worst.
Few people remember that Laguerta flirted pretty hard with Dexter in the pilot.
she was annoying then, she is annoying now. bitch needs to get got.
LaGuerta is so going down.
Yeah Laguerta is on the clock. prolly last or second last ep and she’s dead
I actually burst out laughing when Deb confessed to Dexter that she was in love with him. I know they were trying to have a very dramatic and emotional scene there, but it was just to fucking dumb and ridicules. This show used to be one of my favorite shows on TV, but now i basically just hate watch it.
The best part of that scene is knowing that both the actors are actually divorced from one another.
I laughed too, but still wound up enjoying it in a dramatic sense.
… which is strange and confusing, but yeah, it happened.
Are you just going to ignore your erection?
What do you mean? Masuka was barely in this episode.
man, this season could have been so good if they focused on dexter vs. the ukranian mob (with laguerta finding out that dexter is the bay harbor butcher as the sub-plot, thus setting the scene for the last season).
yeah. Dexter was originally not interested in sex. He used his wife mostly as a cover. Now he continually gets distracted by women and his sister has the hots for him.
The first couple seasons of Dexter were worth watching, and the John Voight big bad season was the pinnacle for the show.
It really is one of those shows that should have had a distinct plot arc for the series, have like 3-4 seasons and then end it before it gets too hard to maintain the main plot device.
Also, am I the only person bothered by the fact that it seems like Harrison is NEVER around. I mean, it’s his child, maybe he should have SOME involvement in his life on a regular basis. I really don’t think that aspect of killing off his wife was taken into consideration.
You meant John Lithgow right? Not John Voight?
Yeah, my bad.
It’s kind of more fucked up that he ditched Astor and Cody the second their mom died, despite having been in their lives for years at that point. Though to be fair, Dexter is a sociopath.
He really hadn’t been in their life for THAT long. I might be wrong about this, but I don’t think he had legally adopted them either, so it them going to live with their grandparents actually made sense to me.
As of the first season, he was meant to have been dating Rita for awhile. At least a year, I think. Then she died at the end of Season 4, so S1-S4 was around four years.
Maybe they were meant to be closer to their grandparents than was shown on screen or I forgot about it when they did show it, which is completely possible. It just seemed odd that he sent them 3 hours away from their baby brother because their mom died. “I’m going to keep this one because I made him, but you guys can go to hell. I mean Orlando.”
Meanwhile maybe he did it because Cody had an awful haircut. Last time he was on he had a bowl cut and now it’s been slightly modified to a Justin Beiber bowl cut. Terrible.
Leigh, you may be mis-remembering that — it was actually Astor’s idea to go to Orlando, having become so pissed at Dexter’s inability to empathize with her about Rita’s death. Cody wanted to stay, Astor wanted to go, and Dexter decided the two should stay together in light of his own strong relationship with Debra, so he sent Cody away with Astor rather than forcing Astor to stay.
Ah, that’s absolutely right and I’d completely forgotten that bit of plot. My fault on that one.
I’m still blaming Cody’s dumb haircut though.
Hahaha, that was undoubtedly a factor.
It was pretty obvious from the first time Dex goes to his appartment that Sirko (Stevenson) was in love with Victor, so not much of a big plot twist, but a well acted scene nonetheless.
Yvonne’s been great too, sure her naked scenes could have been more full frontal, but it’s a nice step up from Chuck and Mass Effect hey! (oh and yeah the writing sucks, even if I’m not yucked out by incest plot lines, single kid, read game of thrones, whatever)
Wait, she gets naked in this?!
*sets DVR*
Sideboob only unfortunately, but still nice.
The only reason I started watching again this season after bailing out last season, was the hope that Yvonne Strahovski would get naked. I have been sorely disappointed. Sideboob was all right though. Really, a week should never pass when she’s not on TV.
Soooooo, no DP?
Bob, I hope you mean John Lithgow as Trinity. Jon Voight would probably be a zero sum hire for this show
Yes yes yes. That was a slip up on my part.
That’s cool, Jon Voight would definitely bring a nice dickish and aloof quality that Dexter is missing
yeah, despite my saying it as a mistake, the more I think about it Jon Voight could bring something good to the show.
maybe jon lovitz too next season?
It Stinks!
Stevenson has been solid this season, his confidence and presence makes me hope the folks who cast Game of Thrones are watching, he’d be a solid fit in Westeros.
Anyone else getting the feeling that Deb is going to end up on Dexter’s table? That’s what I think this is leading to.
I sure hope so.
Plus for the actor it would be a nice treat to be able to off his ex-wife on screen
That’s kind of my hope, too, that Dexter is forced to choose between Hannah and Debra, and he chooses Hannah.
They’re actually setting it up nicely for an ending like that.
Deb wants Hannah dead, they brought back the Deb loves Dexter storyline right when Dexter develops feelings for Hannah. I imagine Deb would kill Hannah, and Dexter would kill Deb maybe not on a table but in a fit of rage that has been building all season. Then LaGuerta figures out Dexter is the Bay Harbor Butcher and the last season is him on the run for murder of Deb and everyone else he killed.
I put way too much thought into that prediction. I just want something really mind-blowing to happen.
The fact that Dexter has “feelings” for anyone continues to drive me insane.
You guys it’s Dexter, what’s going to happen sadly, is that the LaGuerta plot will only be adressed next season, and if Dexter has to choose between the sister he loves (as a brother) and the hot serial killer he bangs and has feelings for, I think the show is far too predictable to end with second billing actress dead.
On a side note, of all the problems and the flaws that the show has, I am probably the only one to think that the whole Debra thing is far from being the most stupid (I think it has more to do with your sensibilities than bad writing, Dustin)
Confronting us with the duality of man *fart noise* no but seriously, it is what the show was once about. Dexter is a serial killer and a vigilante, and the show has lazily been dragging this thing like it’s fucking edgy, and that’s what’s stupid in my opinion. They underestimate the audience ability to see beyond Dexter being a necessary evil or whatever. The show could have been darker, edgier, but mostly, more clever, tackling in-depth themes (which, and I guess this is why I stuck with the show, they tried. i.e. Deb’s feelings.) instead of sunny sugary display contrasting with the macabre and the over-reliance on a formula that delivers on the thrill but doesn’t know what to do with most of its cardboard characters.
So just because incest makes you icky, your assessment that it has transformed into a dumb show is invalid. It was already kinda dumb. Dexter is and has always been a bloody, sexy (thx Showtime) guilty pleasure, and after six seasons of the same old same old, it has proven that it is nothing more.
I’m torn. On one hand, I’d love for Dexter to kill Debra and have been hoping it would happen for years. However, Debra’s hilariously atrocious acting (and John Beohner-esque overtanned skin) is one of the only aspects I still enjoy about the show.
Most of all, I hope Dexter kills everyone except Masuka and Angel and they get their own spin-off series about running the restaurant as co-owners. Then again, they’d find a way to fuck that up too.
You take that back about Masuka!
Yeah, and Angel!
masuka is great comedy relief, no so much fatista, he just sucks…
How could anyone NOT love the new and improved Papa’s under Angel’s management? Papa Angel is so learned.
Guess I’m one of the few people who doesn’t mind the Deb thing
We’ll form a club. We can have a handshake.
A season ago everyone was up Joey’s ass about his shenanigans; now no one gives a shit what or who he does, especially Deb. I’m ready for LaGuerta to be dead. Like 6 seasons ago.
yeah, quinn, fatista and laguerta all need to die.
Yeah, when Quinn was actually being legit and trying to be a good cop everyone was on his ass, but now he’s got a Ukranian hooker/dancer pretty much living with him, and he’s hanging around the mobbed up strip club all the time and no one as much as blinks.
I hope, right before Dexter kills LaHHHUUEerta, she says something with a ridiculous accent. Worst character on a show filled with bad characters.
Yvonne Strahovsky makes any show worth watching though, cuz… damn.
/malepig
The storylines are bad but I guess I’m comfortable enough with the characters to not care. Mike, LaGuerta and the old commissioner might die, but I do not see Masuka or Angel getting killed. Neither of them have a reason to die and aren’t close enough to Dexter to be used as leverage. Oh and the Ukranian stripper is banging!
I actually like this season, though I do think the Deb-loves-Dexter subplot is dumb. And Ray Stevenson is goddamn spectacular.
I agree with this. I think this has been a very good season, mainly because of the Ukrainian mob plot. I do hate the Deb-Dex thing but think it will be worth it if it sets up for Dexter choosing Hannah over Deb and maybe even killing her. I just hope the show has enough balls to kill Deb off, because I think that is the best thing they could do at this point. Plus, kill LaGuerta cause she sucks.
Ditto.
must say I disagree – this season, for me, is much better than the last two. But, whatever, I also don’t mind the GoT incest that gets everyone else in a twist.
hm… maybe I should just write, “you guys are unnaturally obsessed with Corgis and I’m more fucked up than you are.”
still better than the last 2 seasons
not exactly a high bar
I watched two and a half seasons based on recommendations from this site before I got out.
You all deserve this for watching a show that uses voiceover as a way to display a characters motivation and also to advance plot. Seriously lazy.
I would give it another shot at least through season 4, which was phenomenal.
season 4 has the greatest thanksgiving episode in the history of television. jon lithgow is a national treasure.
I usually hate the voiceover thing in a show, but I read a couple of the Dexter books before the show started, and it really is the only way to capture his “dark passenger” internal struggle with himself.
I’ve never been particularly upset by the Dex-Deb love subplot, aside from how thoroughly manufactured it felt last season; and this season, I think it’s spent enough time on the back burner that I’m over that particular issue. And now that it’s out in the open, the subplot is free of the tedium that plagued it last season.
The last couple episodes had me concerned, but I actually thought this week’s was quite strong, with that Isaak scene, Deb’s confession (pretty great, despite some unintentional hilarity), and Hannah-Dexter feeling just a little more natural this week than it had before (still not quite “there,” but getting closer).
Also, isn’t it more of a “charge” back into squickiness, rather than a “retreat”? “Retreat” sort of connotes a return to safer ground, and an incest subplot in non-villainous characters is anything but safe.
We all would throw a bone to Deb if we were Dexter.
Yeah, you’d have too, then watch some TV.
I”ve been fairly happy with this season (except for the other cops’ boring side plots) but maybe because the last two seasons were flaming turds. Plus Yvonne Strahovski.
Watch Hannah and Dexter are gonna have a baby girl, Hannah and Dexter will die, Deb will raise the kids and Harrison will turn out to be a serial killer and she’ll implement Harry’s code.
This show used to be awesome.
I’ve stayed with Dex from the beginning and have seen every episode except the last one (no Sho at the parentals’ house). When I saw this post, it made me sigh because I knew exactly what “squicky” meant. Dexter needs to realize he doesn’t love Hannah (and is only sexually drawn to her) and kill her. Maybe kill LaGuerta out of necessity. The show would redeem itself if the last season was dedicated to Dex going on the run, maybe with Harrison. The “Big Bad” would be the head of the manhunt a la Lundy… it could even be Deb. The show ends with Dex getting lethal injection or something, ending up on a table of his own somehow.
This show is too comfortable with its formula. We don’t NEED a serial killer every damn season, and we don’t NEED Dex to find some kind of connection with every one of them. Dex should have been Seasons 1, 2, 4, and a final with Dex being cornered. I know they’ve chosen to wrap it up in these last TWO seasons, and while this one’s been better than the last few, it still doesn’t work for me. I never really bought Deb’s arc this season of “What the fuck, Dex? –> I’m gonna help you –> Okay I see your point –> It’s still fucked up though –> Eh whatever. I don’t care anymore.”
Also, did anyone NOT know the British-sounding Russian dude and Victor were lovers? I thought it was obvious given how personal he made his hunt for Dex, and how that was the easy “shocking” twist route (instead of brother or best friend or whatever). I would have been impressed if they never explicitly said it… then again I haven’t seen the episode yet so I’ll shut up now.
@SuperHans They explicitly say it about 4 or 5 times, just to make sure you really understand.
I was under the impression that Victor was Isaac’s son.
@Furious: Ah, I can see that. Still, this is a weak twist in a post-Omar Little world.
Eh, I think its better than The Walking Dead. The shows not that bad, I see what you people mean with the whole drama lame twist things but its still decently written and I’m still interested in Dexter. What I don’t get is why people wanna bang Yvvone, she’s like the less hot version of Kim from 24.
I’m just too committed to give up on the show.
But it’s not my highest priority of DVR shows to watch.
I love how convenient having kids is for Dexter.
The biggest problem I have with Dexter is that they stretch 8-episodes worth of material into 12 or 13 episodes, which is why all the filler stuff is garbage and everything drags.