The “Prey” with whom the title to last night’s episode referred to was Andrea, who spent much of the episode on the run from The Governor. It was another stall episode, necessary at this point in the season to push the ultimate Woodbury vs. The Prison showdown to the finale, but as stall episodes go, it was wicked intense. Co-written by Glen Mazzara, it was definitely in the vein of his style of Walking Dead episode: Fast-paced, action-oriented, and spare with the character development. Overall, for what it was aiming to do, I thought it was a successful episode, an excellent game of cat-and-mouse with a stomach lurching twist ending that was either satisfying or bleak, depending on your perspective on Andrea.
Let’s start this week at the end.
Last night’s episode closed with the terrifying image of Andrea, gagged and affixed to The Governor’s personal house of horrors, a torture contraption originally intended for Michonne, where The Governor plans to play out the macabre fantasies in his mind on a real subject. Indeed, Andrea’s head is poised to appear soon in The Governor’s fish tank.
But before you get all bummed out about Andrea’s impending and gruesome demise, remember this: Andrea didn’t have to be here. If Andrea didn’t want to end up in a chair where The Governor was planning to slice off her eyelids, she could’ve been a good friend and left with Michonne at the beginning of season two instead of F***KING The Governor. Who are you going to trust? The woman who kept you alive during the entire winter, or some creepy dude you just met who is seriously hung up on his dead daughter? If Andrea didn’t want to have her fingers broken by The Governor, she could’ve bailed when she saw that the The Governor was arranging fights between the citizens of Woodbury with biters in the mix for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES because, come on lady, that’s f***ed up. If Andrea didn’t want an eyeball punctured by The Governor, she could’ve ran off with Rick and them after The Governor pitted Merle against Daryl. If Andrea didn’t want her flesh turned into a coat, she could’ve left with Michonne after she found out that The Governor kept trophies of dead people.
If Andrea didn’t want to be slapped around with her own dismembered feet, she could’ve chosen to stay with the prison when she went back to negotiate a truce and it became apparent to even the dimmest, most oblivious woman alive that The Governor — who had nearly raped Maggie — was not a good person. In fact, Andrea knew that, and if she didn’t want to have her cheeks pulled apart by fish hooks in The Governor’s laceration chair, she could’ve stabbed him when she had the chance, i.e., WHEN SHE WAS STANDING OVER A SLEEPING GOVERNOR WITH A KNIFE. If Andrea didn’t want to have her nipples sliced off and fed to her, you know what? She could’ve been a little quicker on the trigger when she had The Governor 10 feet away and in her sights. Dumbass. If Andrea didn’t want to end up in The Governor’s cabbage soup, she could’ve stuck around to ensure that The Walkers finished The Governor off.
The point I’m trying to make here should be fairly clear: Andrea is USELESS. She’s had so many outs, at this point, she almost deserves what she gets. Sure, she has some mad zombie-killing skills, but she has sh*t. for. brains. Honestly, I’m surprised the walkers are even interested in her, given how little nutritional value her brains are capable of providing. I’m not suggesting that ANYONE deserves to be bound, gagged, and tortured, but let’s be honest: If someone HAD to go down that road, Andrea’s been wearing those walking boots all season long. If she is killed and dismembered and put in a chow bowl for walkers, I’m not gonna be that bummed about it.
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It was weird that they had Michone say that about her jawless, armless walkers since it didn’t really add to the story. In the comics those two walkers were her Boyfriend and roommate. Which to me makes it seem even more badass that she would do that to them, rather than some random walkers or evil ppl. Unless they want to make it that she was an abused person and got her revenge during he zombie apocalypse. I forget if they said it in the show, but she used to be a lawyer or work in a law office before. She became badass when the world fell apart
God people complain about everything. I liked this episode, the guy that plays the governor did a great job. The whistling was creepy as fck I loved it. I don’t need 24/7 zombie killing to enjoy the walking dead.
Yes, Andrea does stupid shit, but despite popular belief she is a bad ass. No matter how cool you people think you are I don’t think any of you can run around Georgia during the zombie apocalypse with just a knife. My main issue with Andrea is that she doesn’t seem to get the governor is fcking crazy, she seems to think there’s some conflict of interest between Rick and the governor when it’s really the governor just wants to kill ppl. I think Dale definitely rubbed off on her and I’m pretty sure she said that at one point after his death. She wants to save everybody and for everyone to be friends, but it’s just not happening.
Honestly I thought I would hate Andrea when the third season started, but she actually exceeded my expectations. I hated her the majority of the second season and beginning of season 3 because she was all emo and cocky, also a horrible friend to Michonne. I expected her to be on the governor’s dick 24/7. During the mid season finale I screaming at the fcking screen saying that if Andrea didn’t try to stop Daryl and Merle from fighting I would find some way to get into the TV and kill her myself. Honestly all it took was for her to say “Stop” to redeem herself and show that she still had some of her originally well intentioned but misplaced balls.
She did try to kill the governor the first time with the knife, I’m glad she didn’t, because I was assuming he would shoot her on the spot. You don’t just try and murder the guy RIGHT after you meet your old friends who will obviously try talk you into it. That’s just reckless. She should have fucked him some more the next day and then killed him. Second time she tried she was ready to go but pussy Milton (he’s a pussy but I like him still) stopped her.
My only issues with Andrea this episode was letting herself be seen leaving Woodbury, the least she could have done was to tell Tyreese “If you tell on me, they will hunt me down and kill me” not “It’s not what you think”, bitch is being cryptic for no damn reason. I think instead of going where she did she should have found away to get to the roof on the smaller building and just spent the night there. I don’t know why people are complaining about her killing walkers in the building, yeah she was loud as fuck, but you can’t just leave ‘em there. They’re either going to kill you, bring more walkers, or just moan and shit and let the governor know she’s there anyway. My last issue is why do they all take the exact same route to the prison? No wonder she fcking got caught, because he knew where the fuck she was going. Goddamn she’s a fcking lawyer she should be smarter than that.
I did not realize how long that was…
I think the flashback with Andrea and Michonne was used to illustrate the bond they formed while on the run together. It’s the only time we’ve seen Michonne emotionally vulnerable up to this point. Since the Gov’na knows he probably won’t be handed Michonne and is itching to cut someone up, he’s going to take out his wrath on Andrea, then make sure Michonne gets to see his handiwork. He might even unleash her mutilated zombie on Rick’s group.
but my problem with that is, the flashback actually showed the lack of a bond between them. andrea has mentioned in a few episodes this season that michonne would never open up to her and after all this time she knows nothing about her and is expected to continue to trust her blindly, then when she trust the gov,everybody hates her? michonne shoulda have treated her dear friend like an actual friend then maybe andrea would be more inclined to follow her out of woodbury to begin with. but saying hey lets leave aint gonna cut it with me. my closest friends could tell me that and i would still require an explanation. especially if i’m leaving a zombie safe zone for the wilderness
I didn’t care for the depiction of the Governor in this episode. He’s always been a cold, calculating nut, but in this episode, he seemed a few Daffy Duck “woo hoo woo hoo” yips away from being a cartoon villain. I get that he’s losing his mind, as his rule is slowly disolving, but it was a little over the top in this episode IMHO.
he is devolving into his “comic-book” counterpart who was cartoonishly evil from what i hear.
Am I the only one bothered how the show seeming jumps forward in time a lot? Only 2-3 episodes ago it was still the sweltering summer and now in this week’s episode (and last week’s as well), it is suddenly late fall and everyone needs to bundle up for the cold. This is particularly annoying as we know – and the characters explicitly state – that we are only a week or two removed, at most, from the events during the hot, hot summer.
The death of no Walking Dead character will excite me the way that Lori’s Death did. Ahh i miss watching that episode.
I would rather be chained to two annoying Loris for the entire zombie apocolypse than be in a group with one Andrea. She’s the worst.
No way Jose. Lori is infinitely more annoying than Andrea.
The question is: do writers have a tendency of writing a female character so as to be annoying or does the audience have this odd urge to judge a female character to be annoying
I agree with APAcolypse. Lori is possibly the worst written character in television history. It’s like the writers took every negative female stereotype ever, thus making her woefully unlikable. Andrea is also awful, but Lori was so much worse.
@Brian, the latter in this case.
I don’t know, I thought the entire chase sequence was dumb on top of dumb with powdered dumb sprinkled on it. First off, how did The Governor know the specific building Andrea was in? You could clearly see it was a group of about 5 different buildings. Then she continues to bang into every possible surface like Stevie Wonder answering the doorbell and decides to kill the walkers and basically confirm she’s there?? I seriously got pissed watching the episode, let’s not even mention how The Gov was able to not only fight off 20 walkers and not get bit he also caught up to Andrea who had a significant head start.
He had a truck Andrea was dead tired and walking. (ignoring govnah supermanning through a million walkers)
@APAcolypse:
Yes, but that was just another heaping of the dumb. Why the hell didn’t Andrea take the truck? Instead she decides to wander around in the dark hoping to find the prison. That seems like a poor idea.
How did the Governor even suddenly magically appear in the same field Andrea was running in?!
Andrea was running down the road (the guys on the wall witnessed that so they can tell the governor), but from the moment she was out of sight she could have literally been anywhere in that direction. On the road. On the left side of the road. On the right side of the road. In the trees. In a field. Who knows. But nope. The Governor rolls up on her like she gave him a map.
Also, what the shit is with Andrea’s inability to hear anything?! Zombies are always sneaking up on. The Governor sneaks up on her. It’s like they tried to slip a bit of character-development in without actually having anyway say that, holy fuck, Andrea is obviously deaf.
@Miguel Sanchez well i guess (and im reaching here) she was trying to avoid wasting a trip to the other side of the building to possibly find A. more zombies (Guvnah made an incredible amount of noise busting glass n firing guns) B. no keys in the truck or C. The guvnah himself had he managed to escape.
the andrea badge? thanks alot FML
Went straight from T-Dogg to glenn in two posts
Probably because my two posts equal the amount of dialogue t dogg had in the entire series.
The Andrea badge is kinda the theme of this thread. Scroll down. Keep scrolling. It’s happened to a lot of us.
i think your way off base with some of your comments on andrea. if your reviewing the show properly u will have to take notice that WE the viewers knew more about the gov then andrea did. from andreas point of view, she was saved by michonne, then on her death bed, then saved by the gov. from andreas point of view the gov wasnt as crazy as we all knew him to be. while were talking crazy, the gov crazy is atleast controlled by him, ricks crazy is in control by no one. his crazy is is real crazy, the gov is more diabolical i would call it.
but seriously andrea was making the right call to stay most of the season based off of what she saw, and based off of how michonne wouldnt explain to her what she was seeing while snooping, even in the flashback it shows that michonne would never open up to andrea, meanwhile the gov started opening up to andrea very early on.
i cant believe u dont acknowledge that fact that andrea really didnt see those terrible things that the audience or even michonne saw, i blame michonne for not telling her. seriously i’d rather have iced tea and sleep in an actual bed with aspirin than be on death’s door with michonne in the woods. in andrea’s mind both of these ppl saved her life she owes the gov the same consideration she gave michonne, a stranger with two zombie’s on chains. she trusted her michonne crazy looking ass so why not trust the clean cut white guy with iced tea and whiskey? seriously
She witnessed first hand the Governor’s zombie arena “morale booster”. She noticed that something about Woodbury was bothering Michonne, a character Andrea considers a friend, due to her saving her life. She may not have believed Michonne, but the notion of something wrong should still register with Andrea. Andrea had a few tense conversations with the Governor, then found out that Merle had imprisioned Glen and Maggie. She then witnessed her old crew come into Woodbury, guns blazing, something completely uncharacteristic of the group as a whole, and something that should have tipped her off to something being seriously wrong. Not to mention, witnessing first hand the Governor pitting Merle against Daryl in a fight to the death.
She found out two episodes ago that Maggie was raped by the Governor. A few episodes before that, the whole prison gang attempted to explain everything. Not to mention, the Governor and his crew had just attacked the prison, and killed poor Moustached Gentleman Prisoner (I forgot his name already). All of this, and she pretty much “just figured it out”.
I can understand an support an argument that she was “blind” to the true nature of the Governor and Woodbury up until the mid-season finale (the attack on Woodbury), but after that, it’s just poor character writing.
Sorry for the long ass response.
@Whiteyj
she’s just got a little dale that rubbed off on her coupled with typical “Dickmatizing” (patent pending) that the guvnah induced on her. she didnt want to believe that her boo was capable of such monstrosities while to her he had been nothing but pleasant.
Once she did visit the prison is when i believe things really started to click for her, and when she found out the governor visited the prison in “secret” prior (because everyone knew BUT her) that is when small amounts of doubt creeped in which caused her to contemplate killing him in his sleep
Andrea dies in the season finale. I guarantee it. Unfortunately I think it will be by her own hand. The gang will cross paths with her as she is chained up and has been tortured. I believe she’ll kill herself.
Please let this happen!
I agree (and hope) that it’s Andrea that will die. But, I feel like it’s unlikely to be by suicide, even if the Guvnur strips the skin off her fingers one by one and then pick his nose with her fleshless fingers.
Unlikely the writers will give anyone the suicide out, she’ll go down protecting the the Prison Gang in someway. I know she sucks but unfortunately I think the writers are making her more and more helpless because she plays a big comeback part in the finale.
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Im sure andrea will die in the finale because i remember her slipping up and tweeting that she has enjoyed her time on the show and blah blah blah. So finale i know she will bite the dust, its just a matter of how.
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I think the flashback at the beginning was supposed to call back to the Governor’s conversation with Milton about Michonne effectively (in his mind, anyway) being responsible for the death of his daughter.
Hence, Andrea asking Michonne about her leashed, armless, jawless walkers in that opening sequence.
Agreed! I thought that was pretty clear with all the talk of walkers in their past lives. The huge difference that drives Michonne and the The Guvnor in opposite lines of thinking.
I’m so tired of these holding pattern episodes. Right when I was ready to quit this show we get “Clear”. Now back to stretching 20 minutes of story to fill an entire episode. Can’t wait for Mazzara to go.
@Flora
I’m not completely sure that you actually know the definition of a sociopath.
Also, welcome to the internet. It takes a little to get yourself oriented, but you are really going to love it.
No. We like the show. That’s why we watch it. But Lori was dumb. Carl was dumb (but he’s getting better). Andrea is dumb. And Michonne did just stare for like 6 episodes. Check out the thread 2 weeks ago for the episode “Clear.” You would be hard-pressed to find anyone who had anything bad to say about that episode.
That being said, the show is wildly inconsistent in terms of quality and when we get tricked into watching an episode all about Andrea with no real resolution or progression of the story, there are gonna be some complaints.
Personally I’m still wondering why Rick is the leader when he’s obviously out of his freaking mind.
He’s only a little bit out of his mind and seems to acknowledge it.
And, he’s no more out of his mind than those folks we seem to keep electing to go to Washington.
Boom. You just got randomly politicized, Dmoney22.
+1 hahaha *mandark laugh*
I’ve been thinking about this a lot, and it might be my fondness for the actress, but so many of the shows problems could have been fixed if Andrea had died in season 1 in place of Amy, and had Amy live on in her role till now. So much more likeable, but Laurie Holden is a Darabont regular. Would’ve made for some great changes for comic book fans, also.
I don’t get what they’re doing with Tyrese. His entire story-arc is removed from what makes him a fan favourite. While I appreciate trying to freshen things up for comic to TV fans I would, at this point, prefer just a straight up adaptation that I can point people towards without feeling embarrassed by the sillier turns the show puts out.
but then you wouldve had people complaining because Andrea was such a badass in the comics. (regarding the Andrea/Amy thing)
Was I the only one who thought at the time the Governor was smashing windows and making as much noise as possible to attract the attention of all the walkers in the surrounding area and leave Andrea in a zombie death trap? I’m glad it didn’t turn out that way because we got a fantastic scene but that would have been very badass and befitting of the Guv to ‘kill her’ without even being close. Still, I suppose he wanted it done by his own hands so he could guarantee she didn’t reach the prison group.
I thought he was channeling his inner Hans Gruber.
This is an angle everyone complaining about the zombie staircase doesn’t seem to comprehend. It’s not like they were just hanging out there for an undead staircase party. They were drawn to the insane amount of noise mistah guvnah was making.
Exactly, Satan! Zombies hear noise, zombies follow noise down stairs, zombies get stuck. But luckily for the Governor they were all toothless, apparently.
I agree. She has annoyed me for far too long. Off with her head.
Who would you guys rather have lead your group if you were in a zombie apocalypse?
Season 1 Shane (before lori drove him completely insane)
Any Rick
Or the Governor
1. Comic book Rick. 2. Comic book Tyrese. 3. TV Tyrese. 4. TV Rick.
Shane would have gotten everyone killed pretty quickly, clarity or insanity be damned.
tyrese wasn’t an option. and why wouldn’t you want to lie in a somewhat “normal society portrayed in the TV’s Woodbury?
Because it’s not really a “normal society”. Woodbury is distopic at best, North Korea at worst. All the “normal” people in Woodbury are clearly brainwashed, or completely in the dark about what’s going on around them.
Why does everyone hate Andrea sooo much? she is a very capable zombie killer, sure she had to develop her skills (she was horrible season 1), but its not like she had access to a “How to survive a zombie apocalypse guide.” she plays a role well (cook cleaning, shooting/stabbing zombies), and she’s a mean lay from what my homie shane told me. She sounds like someone i’d want in my group. she’s like the almost opposite of Lori (which i understood why everyone hated her.). soo why so much Andrea Hate?
Because she is an idiot whose judgement can’t be trusted.
You had me at “idiot.”
“Why does everyone hate Andrea sooo much?”
How much time you got buddy?
I guess the way you guys feel about Andrea is the way I felt about Lori. I can never hate a character as passionately as I did her.
Lori had no redeeming qualities. Andrea has exactly one, and that’s her survival skills.
Whiteyj, I don’t even think you can argue for her survival skills. Yeah, you can say she kills zombies but, seriously, who decides their personal weapon during the apocalypse is going to be the smallest pocket knife in the history of pocket knives, pockets or knives?!
I can agree on the knife, but Andrea can still hold her own against zombies. She usually needs someone to bail her out in the end, but hard to argue that she’s not a survivor when she gets swarmed by zombies while alone in the woods, killing two with said tiny knife, and breaking the arm of the one holding her back, all without getting bit (It was her fault for getting in that situation in the first place though).
I never said she was the best zombie killer/ survival wizard on the show, but she has a knack for not getting munched on. She’s still the worst still alive character on the show though
I think everyone hates Andrea because we used to like her. Nobody ever liked Lori so it was only a natural hate. Andrea is worse in a way because she was supposed to be better.
@Iron Mike Sharpie you do HAVE to acknowledge her survival skills. she spent at least 4-6 hours running and killing zombies when she escaped Herschel’s farm. She was literally by her self and she survived until what looked like mid day (it was the pitchest of black nights only until her body couldn’t take it and her bullets ran out did she almost bite the dust.
and with that post i am gifted the Andrea badge lol
I missed the part where everyone used to like Andrea. She was useless from the start with the gun safety, remember? But she’s turned into a badass and I think a lot of this hate is misdirected or internet mob/meme mentality. I still think the hate is pretty extreme, particularly since some of the same people who hate her profess love for the Governor. I tried to think of one character on the show that has always made the right decision and I haven’t been able to think of one.
@Flora
While I will defend Andrea’s zombie killing skills, there is nothing badass about making Renee Zellerweggeresque crying faces through 90% of your screentime.
I don’t hate Andrea, but she is far and away the least interesting of the principal characters still on the show.. I’ve kind of gotten the sense that the writers are giving up on her, and though I doubt she’ll die soon, I wouldn’t be surprised if she did.
And as far as characters that make the right decisions, it’s true, nobody really makes the right decision 100% of the time (I’m having a hard time thinking of a major wrong decision made by Daryl though). The reason people rag on Andrea, is she makes the wrong decision constantly. Everybody else is at 50% bad decision making, Andrea’s at 90%.
Why don’t more people gouge out eyes? The governor only had a hand on her mouth, his only good eye is like, 6 inches from her. FOR GOD SAKES WOMAN, USE YOUR THUMB OR EVEN JUST POKE HIM!
Pei Mei that shit, son.
I keep going back to the speculum . What the hell could he want to do with a speclum. And what might have been a female urinal?
the funnel is to forcefully push fluids down a prisoner’s throat. Not that I uhhh own one or anything.
Again, the more I think about it, why didn’t Andrea get to the truck? It was probably no more than 12 steps from where she exited the building. Yes, maybe the keys were missing, but with someone as unhinged as the Guv’nuh, maybe they were still in the fucking steering column. It haunts me at night… this plot hole. So bad, so glaring.. .even if she couldn’t start it, why wouldn’t she sabotage it (if she’d approached the truck, she would have heard the guv’nuhhh clinging to life). It’s the most glaring, slap-the-audience plothole that’s been introduced, and I think the writers are damned lazy. Fuck it, if it gets any more manipulative and stupid, I’m tuning out. I have better things to do than imagine away bad writing and sheer lack of character development.
She exited from the other side of the building. She’d have to go around and check. Meanwhile, she just escaped a group of zombies. For all she knows, there’s more of them around the corner that she’d have to fend off. And she doesn’t know what the Governor is doing inside (like maybe running like hell back to his truck?).
Chances are, for gas purposes and to ensure Andrea doesn’t steal his truck, the Governor has the keys with him. It’d make more sense for Andrea to get the hell out of that building and get to the jail ASAP.
THE FUCKING SPECULUM!?!? JESUS EFFING CHRIST!
Quite honestly, Squirrel, I think that of most people who post here, because obviously no one likes the show. It’s always “Lori is so dumb. Carl is so dumb. Andrea is so dumb. Michonne just stares. This show is stupid.” The only things that have changed is Lori is dead and now Carl is a badass but no one has anything good to say about the show, ever, except strangely the Governor.
Shit. I just figured out all of you are sociopaths.
Looks around meekly. Want some cookies?
a friend of mine said it best on twitter today: as much as we despise andrea, we should NOT be seeing the governor abuse women on tv. that shit is just not cool.
and i so wanted rick to just shoot the governor in the face. at least FIRE THE GUN and scare him away. jesus…..
Shoot the guy he didn’t see? Is Rick clairvoyant now!
my gripe is why is the guy who sees things keeping watch? lol
why the hell not? he should be able to abuse who he wants.
i suppose abusing men is ok, but not women, we need to protect them even if its a tv show displaying a sadistic lunatic.
just not cool.
What are you talking about? Everything else is kosher, but an evil supervillain torturing someone is crossing the line?
It’s OK – there will be a PSA segment after the torture. “Ya know, gang, we had a lot of fun today torturing women but just to clarify it is NOT COOL!”
Zombies do not have feelings. They’re kind of like shark heads that keep snapping after they’re dead.
Enough of the Andrea hate already. The character has made some ridiculously bad calls, but no one, not even Daryl or Michonne, the resident bad asses of Our Gang, have made a badder zombie kill than Andrea last night basically bare handed.
So fucking close, Andrea. You nearly made it too. Damn it, Rick…if only you looked a second sooner…
Also: Shenanigans on ZKOTW. That was Three on Andrea with the Tree, not the shovel kill (that looked like roasted mushrooms with ketchup- like anything could be more disgusting than rotting human biter flesh, but apparently so).
I see your Andrea tree zombie kill and raise you Glen’s tied to a damn chair zombie kill.
@Ty
Truly the most bad ass kill so far.
No
Andrea is the worst. She could single-handedly kill every zombie on earth and find a cure for the whole zombie turning thing and she would still be the worst.
@Paul From The Gump
All I can picture is Andrea in a lab coat, mixing random fluids, and making that Renee Zelleweggeresque crying/sad face the whole damn time. God damn it Andrea!
@Tymo, that was my previous top pick. Damn. Actually, they’re kinda tied.
The Governor has been obsessed with Michon’s zombie luggage carriers the whole season. That’s what the flashback was about. Andrea will be turned into a jawless, armless, pet.
I hope not. That means I will not have the peace and quiet of a post-Andrea Walking Dead. That is all i have ever wanted.
The chains he had hung for her were made from hew walker leashes, but I think that is about as far as his obsession with her walkers goes.
His obsession with Michonne is for his daughter and his eye. Using the leashes to restrain her is just a little added fuck you to Michonne.
I have a feeling that if Andrea does indeed die (lord do I detest her) I will actually weep.
This episode was the first time I’ve ever found myself rooting for Andrea. She finally found her proverbial balls and said “F everyone”. Seems too little too late though.
Also, I know Laurie Holden was the guest on Talking Dead and you don’t want to be rude but the question should have been asked “What do you think about the internet thinking you are worse then Lori’s character?”
I imagine her and the actress who played Lorie are probably starting a Walking Dead support group. The actor that plays Carl counts his blessing everyday that he didn’t end up having to be a member.
I believe that nothing is going to happen to Andrea because the governor has a meet up like 12 hours from now and doesn’t have time to play around with Andrea. The Governor, to test Tyrese and his group for screwing around the other day, will leave him to guard Andrea. Tyrese, seeing the Governor is insane will free Andrea and then him and his sister will make a break to the prison.
The Governor doesn’t have to finish his torture session in one go. If he’s as sick as we expect him to be, he’ll hurt her enough such that she’ll still be alive then go for a nap before the meeting.
Wow! Lauren Cohan, looking hot; Good on ya, shiela!
I honestly thought this episode was awful. I think somebody below mentioned it as well, but seriously, who the hell thought, “Hey, let’s make an entire episode about the least liked character in the cast!” was a good idea.
i don’t know, considering it was focused on two of the shows’ worst characters (Andrea and The Gov) it was pretty good. much more entertaining than last week anyway
Yeah not a huge fan of this one either. I hate Andrea so much that watching this was hard. Any episode where she is the focus would be hard for me even if it is totally about zombie killing and Rick & the Gov swinging their dicks at each other.
Just another time-killing episode, they’re beginning to feel more and more like filler.
The one thing worse than filler is frustration filler.
Indeed. I agree. Andrea IS useless.
Still useless and she was even worse on Talking Dead.
I guess I was the only person watching who thought The Gov. Showing up at the prison was obvious. I’m probably the only one that thinks this show would be a lot more interesting if they would cut the number of episodes per season by 5. Do we need an hour episode just to show us Michonne can do more than scowl like last week?
I hate people like you who comment on this thread with no intentions what so ever to contribute to the discussion, why did you even click the link to get here?
TRaps the gov……doesn’t confrim the kill or take the car.
didn’t necessarily want to kill him because of what Milton explained to her earlier. Martinez would take over and ruin any chance to stop the war before it starts….but the car maybe he had the keys? IDK I thought the same thing…
The flashback seen I think has to deal with when the Gov. was lying to Tyreese and Sasha about Andrea being by herself for the whole winter. That Tyreese and his sister know that she was with Michonne so they know that the Gov is lying but just agree with him so they don’t piss him off. And with Michonne getting a bunch of attention in the last few and next episodes I think it was some character building. I don’t think it was a wasted seen.
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Didn’t that punk that Tyreese was with mention the “crazy sword chick” in reference to Andrea? Or did I imagine that?
I was slightly distracted by cooking, but I swear he said something about her in the Andrea conversation, and I was waiting for Tyreese to say “wait, how do they know each other…?” and have that lead to Tyreese finding out that the Governor is lying.
yeah he did mention her, which makes me think he knew Andrea and Michonne were together or will lead to him finding out…
The Tyreese story line is the one I find most interesting right now.
Overall a good episode though there was a bit of just wasted stuff. The flashback scene? The Governor recording his whistle? I kept expecting him to use the tape as a trap in the warehouse but he never did. And Tyrese and Sasha just roll over when the Gov says “oh its just a scare tactic”. Please. That was weak.
I think Tyreese and Sasha are just playing dumb because they know something is up. They didn’t believe him…
I was wondering if he was using his whistle like sonar. He’s clearly not human; perhaps he is listening to how the sound waves bounce off walls to try to hear where Andrea was hiding.
I think the whistle was to test if the recorder worked. The recorder itself is to record Michonne’s torture session so he can relive it whenever he wants. Although it might be Andrea in the chair now…..
@Mag
Exactly. Testing the recorder was the creepiest part of him setting up his whole workshop. The implications of his wanting to record the torture session draw a more complete picture of how totally fucked up the Governor really is.
I think you misinterpreted the crispy zombies. Tyreese actually opened the ark of the covenant out there and they didn’t look away.
May God have mercy on the poor lefties that have to shoot a bolt action rifle very quickly.
Man! A childhood full of scissors only made for righties and bam! Zombie apocalypse. Totally bad luck, indeed.
Andreaaaaaa come out and plaaaayaaay
I hate Milton. That dude in one episode tried to catch up with Andrea in all the mistakes she’s made. It seemed like all he did was flip flop all episode. You can’t half ass your resistance to the Governor. You’re either with or against him. You can’t give Andrea the Governor’s plans because the Gov is evil only to stop Andrea for killing the Governor. Then he decides to set the Walker army on fire only to gloat int he Governor’s face? C’mon. He should have just shot the Governor right then and there.
I wouldn’t worry too much. You totally see Milton saving Andrea and dying horribly in the process, don’t you?
Okay, here’s something weird: Check IMDB for The Walking Dead. Under the cast list, Rick has 35 Episodes, as does Carl and a few others. So does Sarah Wayne Callies (Lori Grimes). So you’re telling me she’s been in every one of the recent episodes? Is she in the background like an Easter egg?
Here’s something weird: her name is in the opening credits of EVERY EPISODE, OMG!
Yeah. Not that weird. Her agent and/or manager negotiated credits for the season. Happens on a lot of shows.
Zombie Lori is a better actor than Ankles-Behind-The-Ears Lori
I think IMDB relies on the credits, and as noted above, she’s still listed in the credits of every episode.
She is an amazing actress. Few people know it, but she has been playing Lil Azzkicker ever since Lorie’s death.
As soon as it turned into a chase, I thought “There’s absolutely no story benefit to having Andrea get away.”
Then for a brief moment I thought it might have been just about having one badass moment where she unleashes the zombies on him the way he unleashed them on the Prison.
And I think everyone knew it was Milton when that car drove away from the fire. The only surprise would have been if it really was the two dissenters from Woodbury.
I expect that in the next two episodes, MIlton will die. Either Maggie or Glen (but not both), Hershel, Beth, and Carol, the Governor, and Caesar.
I was happy that Andrea actually showed some competence with the door trick. It gives me hope that if she makes it through the season, she may actually get closer to her character from the books.
Thank you for being about the only person on the board who isn’t playing the same one note and recognizing just how badass that was. I thought she actually sacrificed herself for a moment just to ensure the Governor went down. (Then I thought she stole the truck. Damn it, Andrea! You tried so hard to become a good shot, why didn’t you ever learn how to hot wire?)
She has always been good and smart when it comes to the zombies. It is how she carries herself in LITERALLY EVERY OTHER SCENARIO that makes her so damn terrible.
Some people have many great skills. Andrea has those but not the people and judgment skills.
Fact that not one zombie reached for her when she open the door seems flawed if they’re reaching through trees to get her. Thought the zombies would push Andrea away and look for someone with actually brains.
The sound Homer’s head makes when they tap on it delights me to no end.
I demand that The Governor use his elite whistling skills to knock out G&R’s Patience next week.
Soooooo Tyreese will find Andrea and that will be the final straw for him and his girl to turn on the Governor, yeah? and everyone cries until October knowing Andrea lives.