
You may have already heard about the kerfuffle yesterday regarding comic book artist Tony Harris (Starman, Iron Man, Ex Machina) posting a rant on Facebook about female cosplayers. You may have even spotted the #CosplayAppreciationDay Twitter hashtag trending yesterday. The hashtag was inspired by Gail Simone, who declared Tuesday Cosplay Appreciation Day on her Tumblr in response to Harris’ post. We’ll get to his post in a moment, but first we wanted to point out that part of the backlash he received was probably due to some very terrible timing:
Female cosplayers have had to put up with a few ridiculous situations in the past month. MONTH. Not weeks, not years – four discussions in a month. First, Mandy Caruso detailed how she was harassed by press at New York Comic Con. She was wearing a Black Cat costume that revealed cleavage, and the male interviewer asked her to spank him and asked what her cup size was. Then, cosplayer Molly McIsaac posted about how people wearing costumes doesn’t mean you can treat them like pieces of walking meat. And finally, just over the weekend, there was arguing about a faux nerd girl meme that used the word “whore.” Intense discussion surrounded all of these posts – from all sides. Today’s incident takes the prize though. [Geekfemme]
In other words, Tony Harris picked a pretty bad time to annoy people who were already fed up about geeky girls having their nerd cred constantly questioned for no other reason than their gender, which is bullsh-t. So here’s what Harris posted on Facebook yesterday:
I cant remember if Ive said this before, but Im gonna say it anyway. I dont give a crap.I appreciate a pretty Gal as much as the next Hetero Male. Sometimes I even go in for some racy type stuff ( keeping the comments PG for my Ladies sake) but dammit, dammit, dammit I am so sick and tired of the whole COSPLAY-Chiks. I know a few who are actually pretty cool-and BIG Shocker, love and read Comics.So as in all things, they are the exception to the rule. Heres the statement I wanna make, based on THE RULE: “Hey! Quasi-Pretty-NOT-Hot-Girl, you are more pathetic than the REAL Nerds, who YOU secretly think are REALLY PATHETIC. But we are onto you. Some of us are aware that you are ever so average on an everyday basis. But you have a couple of things going your way. You are willing to become almost completely Naked in public, and yer either skinny( Well, some or most of you, THINK you are ) or you have Big Boobies. Notice I didnt say GREAT Boobies? You are what I refer to as “CON-HOT”. Well not by my estimation, but according to a LOT of average Comic Book Fans who either RARELY speak to, or NEVER speak to girls. Some Virgins, ALL unconfident when it comes to girls, and the ONE thing they all have in common? The are being preyed on by YOU. You have this really awful need for attention, for people to tell you your pretty, or Hot, and the thought of guys pleasuring themselves to the memory of you hanging on them with your glossy open lips, promising them the Moon and the Stars of pleasure, just makes your head vibrate. After many years of watching this shit go down every 3 seconds around or in front of my booth or table at ANY given Con in the country, I put this together. Well not just me. We are LEGION. And here it is, THE REASON WHY ALL THAT, sickens us: BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW SH-T ABOUT COMICS, BEYOND WHATEVER GOOGLE IMAGE SEARCH YOU DID TO GET REF ON THE MOST MAINSTREAM CHARACTER WITH THE MOST REVEALING COSTUME EVER. And also, if ANY of these guys that you hang on tried to talk to you out of that Con? You wouldnt give them the f–king time of day. Shut up you damned liar, no you would not. Lying, Liar Face. Yer not Comics. Your just the thing that all the Comic Book, AND mainstream press flock to at Cons. And the real reason for the Con, and the damned costumes yer parading around in? That would be Comic Book Artists, and Comic Book Writers who make all that sh-t up.
So, yeah. In one broad swipe, he characterized genuinely geeky women as “the exception to the rule” (thus painting the majority of women at cons as crazy, pandering, dishonest attention whores who are preying on men) and “average Comic Book Fans” as men who rarely or never speak to women and are “ALL unconfident when it comes to girls.” Gee, I wonder why some people took issue with those characterizations. I also enjoy the irony of a comic book artist complaining about scantily-clad cosplayers who are wearing the exact costumes drawn by other comic book artists.
Harris later posted this followup:
So I guess I broke the Internet in half today . Lots of interesting commentary, to say the very least. Didn’t realize that many people would care about one guys opinion. Also extremely savaged and humbled by the vicious response that went so far beyond any reason whatsoever, with personal attacks on my family, my sexual history, and accusations of advances being rebuffed cosplayers, which has never ever happened. My candor and my delivery of most things can be and usually is quite blunt. Can’t help who I am, but what I’m not, and never have been is a misogynist or sexist or any number of things I was called. I have the utmost respect for all the women in my life from my mother, my sister, motherinlaw, my wife and wonderful 2 daughters. This is my final word on the subject so move on. I won’t address it again.
Yeah, I have no idea why anyone might infer sexism after reading that earlier post. No idea at all. Then Harris followed up the follow up with this:
So heres my follow up commentary. Tried to “engage” my detractors on Twitter. Big mistake. Not gonna backpeddle. Not one step. I tried to be clear at the beginning by saying I know there are legit Cosplayers who know the material and love it. So if you wanna gloss over that and accuse my statements as being all inclusive of Cosplay, then blow me. See, this is why I posted this HERE, on MY page. You dont like it? Leave. Dont threaten to stop buying my work, because Im sure most of you who threw that gauntlet down, never did to begin with. Good riddance. Hey all you self righteous f-ck-faces out there who are spewing even MORE hatred at me, than you accused me of spewing. pfffft. Really, thats how you come at me? Once you have moved on to hate on someone else….Good Riddance. But the one thing I HAVE to address is the use of the word MISOGYNY. So I am a Misogynist? Why? Because I frown upon Posers who are sad, needy fakers who use up all my air at Cons? Sorry, while you Cos”Play” Im actually at work. Thats my office. F–k you. I actually dont hate women, I dont fear them either. Nor do I mistrust them. I do not portray or Objectify half naked women in my work. I never have. I have always been VERY vocal about my dislike of that practice, and that my view is and has been that T&A in comics is a Pox. If you wanna come at me with accusations of Misogyny and sexism, youll be wrong. I think there are several Hundred “PRos” I could rattle off that are doing a fine job of perpetuating that crap without ANY help from me. Its not helping to further our industry. Hey haters, Im not sad, lonely, stupid, uneducated, gay, nor do I wear Assess for a Hat. Im not a Sexist, and have been very vocal about the fact that its a GOOD thing to see so many female fans at shows, and I treat them with the same kindness and respect as I do ANY male fan I meet. I guess the one mistake I made in my original post was that I excluded Men. Let me rectify that… SOME of you MEN, are as bad as SOME of the Women Cosplayers, I talked about earlier. There. Oh and to all of you guys who are my friends, and pros who I work with, dont go and try and defend me or anything I wrote. Youll just get sh-t on. Thanks though. And lastly, Bleeding Cool, and Rich Johnston are Sh-thead, scumbags, and this isnt the first time his camp has come after me. F–ck you Rich.
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Moving on. . . . We’ll be celebrating Cosplay Appreciation Day (belatedly) with a couple of posts here later today. In the meantime, this comic seems relevant:

[Pictures via Big Red Kev, Warming Glow, and Sailor Swayze.]




What’s funny to me, Is I like to read comics. I don’t have an encyclopedic memory of every character I’ve ever read about, there are too many. In the above comic, I could have named one, maybe two lanterns, and if it’s not the same oath from that deplorable movie then I don’t know it. But that doesn’t, and shouldn’t keep me from wearing a lantern shirt and heading to a Con and having a blast. I’m not a faker, I’m just a fan whose not as hard core as others.
Totally agree.
yeah that comic pretty much nails it.
Sometimes, people should just shut the f*** up and link to a Youtube video of what they’re talking about.
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I do agree that some women come to these events to expose themselves and not because their into the reason they have them. I’m sure if you ask them about the character that they dress up as, they’ll have no clue what to say. Now, not all geeky girls are like that because there are girls who read and enjoy the fictional universe just like any geeky guy but there are some exceptions.
But there’s also a Cosplay community that is sufficiently geeky but might not be geeky about the specific thing they cosplay as for a con, they may just enjoy the style of the outfit or want the challenge to remake it.
My issue isn’t whether or not the type of people mentioned by LoveWaffle and Selly exist. (Of course some people are like that.) My objection was Harris describing normal geeks as being the exception to the rule, as if the overwhelming majority of female cosplayers are sociopaths trying to deceive men. That’s a shit attitude to have about women at cons.
Yeah, I’m a bit stunned Harris, who I’ve met at person at a few cons, actually posted this. He was a really nice guy and quite gracious to both male and female fans in my observation. Too bad.
I don’t even understand why the “normal geeks” would even be an exception to the rule. There’s a level of narcissism inherent in cosplay. Whether you’re porn star April O’Neil dressed up like TMNT character April O’Neil or a huge Star Wars fan who spent months on his perfect Darth Vader costume, you’re still saying “Hey! Look at me! Look at my awesome costume! Maybe my picture will be on some website with the best cosplay! Look at me!”
Or, if you go the Dan Dreiberg route, the whole thing’s just fetishism. In that case, the only people who should be cosplaying are the people Tony Harris says should not be cosplaying.
Well to your response Robopanda, everybody has opinion even Harris but that does not mean that it’s true or fact it just makes it what it is ” Their Opinion” nothing else. If there is not sold fact to their statement I just disregard it as null and void and move on. All geeks, guys or girls including myself should be proud of who you are and your culture and not let the masses, media, or anyone dictate who we are.
Yeah but Harris would disagree with the “All geeks, guys or girls” portion of what you just said. His post asserted that real nerds =/= girls, and that real nerds = virgin men who are uncomfortable around women.
Which is what we’re supposed to be mad about.
“I’m not sexist, I just think that the reason women dress sexy is to prey on men.”
“I’m not afraid of women, I just wish they’d stop having opinions. And vaginas.”
I’ve been interviewing a lot of cosplayers since i started my blog and they are genuinely enthusiastic, geeky and cool people. They are by and large lovely women and could model anything they wanted. So costuming and geek culture is clearly a passion for them. But as far as this discussion goes, I am all over the map. Tony Harris? Yeah, for someone who wants to make comments all the time to prove how in-your-face and won’t-sugar-coat-it he is, well it’s kind of detrimental to his pseudo badassery to complain when people get mad.
I remember reading Mandy Caruso’s post and the outpouring of support she got. And while I was 100% on her side with the incident and am proud of her stopping the interview and standing up for herself, she later fought against the “Girls can’t be real geeks” stereotype with the “geeky guys are just mad because they’re losers who can’t get laid” kind of like jackass Tony Harris. And it’s a shame, because I still feel she was wronged, but it shook my support. I will NOT, however disagree with the blogger who called The Big Bang Theory black face for geeks (i’d have chosen the words “minstrel show”)
I don’t know, Pete, I think that misogynistic geek guys use the assertion that girls can’t be real geeks because they’re losers who either can’t get laid or hate women and have this entitled attitude that comics is some fucking boys club.
Well, that was painful to read. I can see why Harris is an artist and not a writer. Yeesh.
Has Tony Harris done enough awesome work that he can apply for the “Alan Moore Cranky Comic Book Guy Amnesty” where we just sort of uncomfortably ignore the weird s–tty things he says?
Nah, but I already bought my Starman books, so I’m stuck.
THIS IS WHY WE CAN’T HAVE NICE THING, INTERNET! Or, in this case, stuck up comic book writer.
Its the same bullshit pretentious attitude you get from indy music snobs. Or amongst sports fans. People just don’t like perceived outsiders encroaching on their niche.
His screed is like something sexually frustrated 19 year old college sophomore me would write.
But, Harris is 43 and married with children.
Harris’s statement is based off of a stereotypical view of geeks/nerds and obviously bias. With that being said there is no arguing with someone like that because they’re not open to reason and I’m sure that no one who has posted a comment that his view of geeks/nerds defines any of us guys or girls. If it makes him feel good about himself and sleep better at night let him go right ahead but to me he is just another person who does not understand something and choose to display their lack of intelligence and insecurity by putting it down. These people I have no patience for and more bad than good he will reap from his actions.
Man this “You’re not a true fan” shit is getting tiresome. It’s no better than hipster snobbery, or the sports fan who can rattle of stats thinking that makes him the super-fan.
And to Harris specifically, who seems to be trying to (intermittently) channel Ben Grimm:
Lighten up, Francis.
did you guys know that the chick who plays siff is a total nerd? she likes star wars.
Pfft. She probably doesn’t even know Han Solo’s paternal grandmother’s name.
Man, I really love these sweeping generalizations. Really reaching out to your key demographics here, Harris.
My girlfriend wanted to do a Game of Thrones costume for Halloween. Not to get guys drooling all over her or get their “heads vibrating”, but because she loves Game of Thrones. She doesn’t like comic books or all the other nerdy things I love. Where is she on the spectrum here, since she fits neither of his two categories?
You must dump her immediately. Take her back only if she memorises the secret identities of the entire Legion of Super-Heroes.
Which version?
My response to Harris? “Yeah, because your average average girl has tons of spare bucks to blow on a custom made (or self-made) costume for a character she knows nothing about so she can spend even MORE money at a convention that means nothing to her, just so a guy will say hi to her that she will never say hi to again.” Right.
My opinion? He knows nothing of true fandom, and just wants to get his name noticed again. The guy BEHIND the table is the one that doesn’t “get it.” And I think that is the problem. In his opinion, if they aren’t buying from him, they don’t know anything about comics.
Translation: I’m too much of a douche to learn tact and consideration for others feelings.
Not to parse what the guy said but “I respect women, except the dumb attention-whores at conventions” is pretty contradictory.
How is that contradictory? Contradiction is to say something and it’s opposite. He is saying his disrespect is restricted to a subset of women; he went out of his way to specify this subset: not so hot women who dress up as super hot popular characters and pass as actual comics fan. I would just as well not respect an out of shape man dressing up as superman on tights just because superman is popular and being in tights would garner him attention. Well, it probably wouldn’t, but this is the thing with analogies, they usually break at some point – but I would still be respecting men in general.
Harris has made a habit of burning bridges and posting drunk. His covers for The Shade were supposed to be his first regular work for DC or Marvel since Starman, and I know the last covers were done by others.
A person in his or her forties complaining about ‘posers’ is super sad, aside from all of the blatant sexism. In fact, that sh*t was sad when people did it back in high school. This incident should serve as yet another reminder to us all that success and talent are not equivalent to integrity, class, or professionalism. What a joke.
Yes, because of course having assumptions about how a person in their forties should feel isn’t ageism either.
I’m Rich Johnston of Bleeding Col, as mentioned.
Fun, huh?