9. The Governor Really Is a Mean Son of a Bitch — For the first three-quarters of the episode, I thought perhaps we were getting robbed. After all the talk of how bad ass The Governor is, he seemed like a pleasant enough guy, an egotist perhaps, but pleasant, helpful, and generous. Then this happened.
When those National Guardsmen signed up for one weekend a month, two weeks a year, they never could’ve predicted this.
Then this happened.
Then I was like, “Oh you really are evil.” The Governor gave me that Sunday school teacher who let his power get to his head vibe. Like he wants to repopulate the Earth in his image. I have a strange feeling that the reason he kept Andrea and Michonne was to make Lil Governors with them against their will. With Merle on his side, he’s going to be quick to seek out Rick’s people in the prison so that 1) Merle can get revenge on Rick, and 2) so The Governor can find some more baby mamas. DON’T YOU TOUCH MAGGIE, YOU DICK.
10. The Heads, The F**king Heads — HE COLLECTS TROPHIES. Well, that pushed it over. Welcome, Governor. You, me, the folks here at Uproxx: We’re gonna get along just fine. If you could put Lori or Carl’s in your trophy case, you will win our hearts for all time.
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where do the people poop…all those people at woodbury, and that crowded prison. And no showers in the prison…it must smell pretty bad…same clothes everyday. Everyone should have have PTSD by now, seeing so much death.
I wonder if all of those heads belong to zombies, or if some were people that had ‘volunteered’ to leave the camp.
dude what happens when I ahve read every story involving Walking dead and commented on them and I still aint got shit for badges….?
What’s with the tea, though!?
ermagherd more badgers to earn
Merle will take off Rick’s hand as payback instead of The Governor.
I doubt it. Kirkman already says he regrets taking Rick’s hand in the comics.
That might be why he took Merle’s hand, someone needed to loose one.
The Governor has a God Complex that will end soon when Rick shows up
the governor is no shane.. i miss shane
For every awesome character written for the series (Daryl) there is an uber-creepy intellect with weird glasses. Like Milton.
The Governor has heads in fish tanks. Your argument is invalid.
Who doesn’t have heads in a fish tank these days? Pffft…
Finally watched the episode… the Governor has the potential to be a badass character! I saw some folks wondering why he would have offed the soldiers yesterday… pretty obvious that he is knocking off anyone that he can’t control or that might be a threat to his author-A-TIE!
Not near as jazzed to see Merle as most seemed… but all shows need despicable people with giant sized chips on their shoulders…
Michonne made a concerted effort to just decapitate the pets without killing the brains to quiet and calm them… she very well may take off with those heads in a duffle bag at some point… maybe the governor should consider that before he uses her as a re-population device.
Overall I liked the epi… though I am with the group… Too much Andrea was a bit annoying.
Wish we could have at least checked in at the prison… at least the group arcs will be crossing soon, which will tie it all together… SONS tonight! WOO!
Also, any guesses as to who was in the bushes/treeline spying on Carol at the end of episode 2?
My guess is the prisoners that Rick spared in that episode…
They were in the preview to the next episode
@FUGYEA
Unlikely, as they were with Rick at the time that Carol was being spied on.
Oops…
next wk should be pretty interesting then haha
I’m guessing that one or both of Michonne’s pets were something along the lines of her boyfriend/husband, brother, or best friend before the shit went down.
That was a great episode, but the way they are splitting up the stories they tell in each episode kind of reminds me of the run in Lost where we kept going back and forth from the survivors’ camp to the Others’ camp. Let’s just hope that shit doesn’t drag on forever until Rick and the Governor meet up.
One of them was defiantly her brother.
I can’t even watch it. Too used to the idea of Morissey thinking he’s the Doctor, I guess.
He was great in that role!
I think for any kind of rebuilding society type deal you would need a sociopath to lead. The Governor has hot water, while Rick probably has scurvy.
The soldiers needed to die, they were deserters and a military unit would probably be able to overthrow him.
Rick and co. will probably end up letting in the walkers/biters in a misguided moral fracas with the Governor.
Big picture people, it’s survival of the species and it would take a ruthlesss cunt to ensure that.
Agree. Had a debate with my girlfriend about whether or not it was justified to destroy those soldiers, and I think that morality in a zombie world rates that as not so atrocious. Dude has a community, maybe the only one. You only pull that off by giving no fucks and having a trophy head marina.
As bad-ass as Michonne is, her scowling ALL THROUGH THE EPISODE annoyed the fuck out of me. I understand she’s supposed to be the silent strong type but come the fuck on. Hopefully she has more modes than “ice-grill” “silence”.
“ice-grill” silence is the best silence…..
I miss yelling “Where’s Carl?”
Dude, Where’s My Carl?
STAY IN THE FUCKING HOUSE / CELL BLOCK / WHATEVERTHEFUCK !!!
I’m pretty sure they didn’t save Merle from the rooftop. He made the comment about Rick being the one that made him mutilate himself and that when “they” found him he was almost bled out and starving.
I took that to mean he freed himself and they found him later.
so far, i’m loving the amount of gore on the screen. they’ve stepped it up. also, andrea has some puppy dog eyes going for the governor. it’s straight up high school. “DEAR DIARY, TODAY IN WOODBURY, THE GOVERNOR GAVE ME HIS FAVORITE HEAD FROM THE TROPHY ROOM. I THINK HE LIKES ME. XOXO, ANDREA”
Thus keeping her streak of falling for appearing-well-meaning-but-really-dangerously-psychotic men alive.
I laughed at your television comparison since the governor actually makes a TV esque comment in the comics when he sits down in that room, something like, “#X channels and still nothing on..” I was actually very disappointed he didn’t in the show.
Also the way they portrayed it, he wasn’t saved from the roof top, rather while he was out and about after he chopped his hand off. If they saved him from the roof top i doubt he woulda chopped his hand off
WHERE IS THE PENSKE TRUCK?!?
Just kidding, I don’t care.
Merle flat out said that he chopped off his hand, got off the roof and was bleeding out when The Governor found him. They didn’t rescue him from the roof.
Spoilerish
I really don’t like this version of the Governor, he is a great actor, but he is not what the original story portrayed him as. First he is a clean cut, and very proper english man in public, whereas the gov from comics was rude, crude and vile. Also it made no sense to kill off 7 army trained ppl that would have integrated into your society perfectly. Also he doesn’t have the death games that he did in comics. Also I thought they would reveal his zombie daughter, instead just a bunch of zombie heads wtf???? I guess Merle is taking the hand for rick lol. I know this is not supposed to be TWD but I’d prefer they either stick to continuity or rename characters. You only piss off comic fans, and non comic readers would know no better :S
Fuck, how do you post to bottom?!?!?
DON’T READ THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COMIC SPOILERS(sort-of):
No, they have it pretty close to the comic in his character. When he’s in public he’s always curtious, hence how the townsfolk support him. Furthermore, it doesn’t seem like you’ve actually read the comic, given you don’t remember the two-page portrait of his trophyroom literally a page after the first of only two appearances of his niece(not his daughter btw). That or you don’t read carefully. Regardless I think they have it pretty accurate, and I’m sure they’ll introduce his fight ring soon given he hasn’t revealed himself to the two girls yet to being a total chode.
As far as I remember he was only nice so as to lure them into his place. I think the whole town knew he was ruthless. Also he didn’t waste time showing how bad he was. Chopping Rick and raping Michonne right off the bat. I may have mistaken daughter for niece. But in the show you see him looking at a pick with what I presume are his wife and daughter.
TOO LONG DIDN’T READ LOL.
But seriously, the Guv creeps me out.
This shit is still terribly written, acted, and executed. The only difference this season is I don’t have anyone to enjoy it’s awfulness with. Apparently all it takes is some chick with a ninja sword tossing around dirty looks at everyone for no reason and all of a sudden everyone is all, ZOMG WALKING DEAD MICHONNE SOOO BADASSS.
Ok, thanks for re-affirming my decision to stop watching!
Almost everyone has gotten more badass and the plot actually progresses week to week instead of being on a farm for the whole season. I think the acting is better too actually. The accents? Not so much.
#foreveralone
What a sneaky way of telling us your a lousy mate.
I thought Milton was thisds guy, [images.buddytv.com] but apparentyl it isnt.
At some point there will be some kind of sickness in Woodbury that gets around (Andrea’s flu) and the governor is gonna have to start killing folks left and right as they pass away and turn. The soldiers made the statement that someone in the base got bit and everything went to helll. I don’t think anyone was bit, but just died from some other means. It felt like foreshadowing to me.
I made this because relevance!
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well played
golf clap
Awesomesauce!
I dont normally stay tuned for Talking Dead (That guy is Turrible), but last night I stay tuned long enough to hear him call the guy the governor gave the knife to “Evil Glenn”, it was pretty great.
Michonne’s Zombies are not gone. They are still undead in the lab. Maybe she is going to grab some ducttape on her way out of Woodbury and take them with her?
Michonne is the best. She is like Anti-Lori.
Where is the spoiler thread? It isn’t at the bottom.
Very happy with this season so far. They are both faithfully adapting the arc and adding their own new spin on it much better than the previous seasons did.
The zombie kills are getting pretty graphic for basic cable too. I’m glad AMC is just letting everyone do their thing now.
Even Merle looked at the Governor like he was nuts after executing all the soldiers.
Now that’s what I call getting some ‘head’… rim-shot
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One of the few things I liked about season two was the way they had Andrea evolve into a badass. I mean, she ended the season by killing zombies all night, and only needed rescuing because she’d run out of ammo, knives, rocks and energy.
This season all she’s done is stagger around feeling ill, and then drink the Governor’s kool-aid. I really hope she’s going to get better again.
Kinda hard to be a badass with Michonne around. Still, she survived 8 months. She’s still a badass, just not so much in present company.
I hope she dies. Andrea is the worst.
They really wussed her up this season, but at least now she can help Lori with the laundry.
What kind of alternative universe am I living in when people want Andrea to die and not Lori?!?!?!
Maybe those heads are kept in the tanks because the Gov is assembling an awesome wrasslin Champion of the World belt? Rick is gonna get a faceful of mush as they are droppin suplexes and flying elbows.
Was there something significant about the tea? Or just like, “Good tea, bro.”
According to the internet, it’s an in-joke about one of the writing staff. Yeah, screw those guys.
Yeah, the tea thing was weird. If that’s just some stupid shit that doesn’t pan out to be relevant I’m gonna be pissed.
I understand writers wanting to put in their own jokes, but they shouldn’t be things that stick out and raise potential plot points for viewers.
Milton refilled his cup at least three times while eating with The Governor, Michonne and Andrea. Neat teapot though.
I thought it was gonna be a hallucinogen but i guess the zombie apocolyose isnt the best time to be walking around tripping balls.
I’m real curious about where they are going with Milton’s research and the Gov’s collection of heads.
I can only imagine it’s gonna be some uber creepy shit.
Also, at first when the Gov went into his little room, I expected to see like a couple walkers (his wife and kid) and totally wasn’t expecting the wall of heads. What the fuck is he keeping so many heads for?
He’s taking absolute control of the uncontrollable. They tore down his world and took everything from him; now he’s turned the tables.
Of course, being zombies they don’t understand that. But he probably doesn’t let that get in the way of his jollies.
yeah I expected to see him holding his zombied wife and kid too. Not headfish nor the head of a guy WHO WASN”T EVEN A ZOMBIE
Hearing the bubbling, I totally expected to find his zombified wife and kid ‘preserved’ in case a cure could be found. Kinda like Nora Fries.
Why are there heads in tanks?
@Speckinzeedouche
It’s part off an elaborately-staged tie-in to Futurama
I liked that Woodbury was Rockwellian to the point of people walking their dog.
Yeah, it’s totally fucked that the people are just hanging out there as if shit is normal.
Never underestimate the power of a few well placed tiki torches.
I don’t know if it’s that fucked up. When the world has completely gone to shit, people are going to be desperate for some sense of normalcy and order. Thus, they’ll go along with the Governor – who has to seem a bit suspicious even to those around him – because he can provide that for them.
Maybe Frank Darabont DIDN’T have any business making a survival- horror series.
I’m perfectly fine with introducing noobs to the show like this: World ended/Sheriff finds his family and gathers up some other survivors/they learn the hard way that being lazy gets you killed. Now start with this season and enjoy. I’ve read all the books. I’ve been a huge whiny baby about the show. Till now.
Is it books or comics that you have read. Either way, can you provide a link to where I can download?
I would’ve liked the mayor to have been less super insane. Maybe he crosses the line every now and then, but he does it all for the sake of keeping the people safe. He doesn’t murder the national guard for supplies, but takes them in and supplements his defense force. He definitely doesn’t keep a bunch of heads in tanks.
He may be more interesting as an evil fuck, but now the situation is just so much more stale. It’s like that line from one of Vince’s articles. “Protagonist’s love interest has a boyfriend? I BET HE BEATS HER!” Cause god forbid the characters might have to make an ambiguous choice. Now it’s less of a “do they continue their nomadic lifestyle in the name of freedom, or settle down in a safe community?” and more of a countdown to when the whole town is destroyed by zombies that the main characters probably let in.
It’s probably that insanity that helped him get those people in the situation they are in now. They probably know on some level how sick he is, but as long as he keeps them safe, they’ll look the other way.
Yeah, the background characters make an interesting, ambiguous choice, but ten bucks says almost all the main characters flip out when they find his trophy case. And when they inevitably send a zombie horde through the town, they’ll downplay all the people being horribly massacred just for the sake of them taking down the bad guy. You people tried going back to normal? Hah! WHAT HAS MAN’S HUBRIS WROUGHT?
There was NO WAY the Governor would have allowed those National Guardsmen in. They deserted their previous post and their last group died. Who is to say they wouldnt do it again?
The soldiers would have never answered to the governor. They had to die.
We already new walkers were camouflage to others, but they loss of hunger thing is interesting.
So was that supposed to be the same chopper we’ve seen since season 1? Or should we assume that there are other military groups still alive and functioning out there?
That’s the first thing I thought when I watched this… “Finally we can get back to the mystery of these goddamn helicopters!”
One thing that is kind of bothering me is how weak the women still are. With the exception of Michonne, all the women on TWD are delicate flowers that are re-enforcing 1950′s stereotypes. It’s kind of weird.And really, those women should be dead or be doing THINGS to ensure there’s at least a small army willing to keep them around, despite their inability to kill. Keep in mind, they are just starting to learn how to kill, nearly a year later. Andrea was showing promise, but, for whatever reason, she’s inexplicably lost her mojo and now clearly wants to make babies with the Governor.
I enjoyed the governor, but, TWD needs to explain his motives. He can’t just kill off soldiers and leave us to speculate his motives. Him killing the soldiers because he’s a bad guy is just lazy. I hope they revisit this next week.
Nice to see Meryle is back from the dead. A flash back to how he survived when he was sawing his hand off when the zombies were 10 feet away would be nice to see.
+1 for the Merle flashback. When he started to talk about he was left for dead and dying of starvation, i thought they would do a quick flashback.
Andrea was sick, that’s why she hasn’t been sharpshooting. And Maggie’s been doing a pretty good job tearing through zombies at the prison. Even Carol helped clear the yard. The only female characters that I can think of that aren’t fighting really are Lori and Beth, and one’s pregnant and the other is supposed to be around 16.
Using a zombie cadaver to practice a c-section is more pro-active than helpless
the zombie c-section practice freaked me the fuck out.
I thought she was gonna cut into it and find a zombie fetus
I’m sure we’ll learn more about the Governor and his motives as the season progresses, but it’s pretty clear to me while he killed the National Guardsmen: He’s a megalomaniac who, in spite of the aw shucks attitude he publicly projects in regards to his position in the community, actually loves being in charge. The last thing he’d want to do is bring anyone into the community that could potentially threaten his authority.
Any one else catch the pop up between commercials about what changes from comic to tv that the creators liked… idk how they can say they liked that carols daughter is dead and that it played a crucial role with the characters when her being alive changed so many events in the comics… not to mention appreciating Daryl over Tyrese… thats racist….j/k….but Tyrese did have a big scene with Rick at the prison…and i hope they give it to Daryl once he reunites with his bro…..Or will he??? *Organs playing*
Had to replay that on the DVR a few times to read all of it.
Pause button.
Did no one catch that the top head in the tanks was that of the helicopter pilot ?
people paying attention did
I think it was pretty obvious. They didn’t really sneak it by. I am just glad they threw that into the show, it was perfect.
Wait, there were people who DIDN’T catch that?
lol
That’s why he had the bandage on his face when he was lying on the bed. That way one could make the easy connect between him and the head in the tank.
Yeah, the band aid was a dead giveaway. DO NOT tell the Governor you deserted the last group.
T-dawg had a hell of an episode. too bad we missed his 5 minute monologue on the inner darkness of man
LOL…hey T-Dog does what he can with what he gets.
Andrea’s babe in the woods routine was kinda annoying…I think they’re trying to move the hate everyone has for Lori to her….
Andrea is SUPER fucking annoying. I really wish death on her character. And not, like, dead, then undead, then dead-dead. Let’s just go straight to seeing her corpse being tossed on a bonfire.
She looked horrible while watching the man at the helicopter. As if she couldn’t decide if she needed to go to the potty real quick and risk getting caught.
Andrea has always been turrible, just business as as usual.
I keep hoping that when Daryl and Michonne meet, they end up together, just to blow Merle’s mind and get rid of the Carol angle.
I am for this.
Chainsaw arm for Merle or GTFO!
That would be groovy. I’d still want Merle to die, though.
they he could get a boom stick
(Spoiler-ish) I think kind of like Daryl and T-Dog and Oscar are Tyrese (and Dexter) in some ways -some are kind of racist- maybe Merle is the ugly and freaky side, whereas the Governor is the calm and ruthless side, both of the same character.
I don’t know.
There should be a “how” somewhere in the beginning (not my maternal language and really tired)